I've broken my half face virginity

[mansell]

Always had an open face in the shed, it's sooo much easier when your working on the bike and don't want to put your smoke out.

As for bugs, some cultures eat fried bugs as a delicacy, I prefer mine on the wing.

And yes it hurts when you face plant wearing a half face

[rosie631]

Yep, all good til you come off. I came off the bike at 100ks recently. Faceplanted and slid 100metres down the road on my front. I reckon if i hadn't been wearing a full face with visor my whole face would have been ground off on the road.
I used to wear an open face years ago and i agree they do feel better but no way you'll ever catch me wearing one now.

[vdog]

[QUOTE=AllanB;1129438991]Next post title reads: "Anyone know a good dentist"........

Not my cup-o-tea.

QUOTE]

I don't like tea, nor do I like bugcatchers............but I do get pissed when the reg cost just keep on escalating, and idiots keep finding way to help the government keep those costs climbing - kinda like the wanker I saw riding a VN1500 in shorts jandals and a singlet.......DONT BE A HOMO, WEAR THE PROPER GEAR, or get in the car naked with the air con on - its cooler and less restrictive

[Ixion]

I rode for years and years with no helmet at all, or open face (cos full face hadn't been invented). Googles and scarf are your friends, sorts out the bug issues.

As to the safety aspect, firstly I have a secret that makes open face (or, indeed, no helmet) perfectly safe. Don't fall off. Simple, eh.

There is also some quite reasonable evidence that the extra jaw protection of a full face (probably somewhat over rated when comparing with a Jet style where the helmet comes down to cover the cheeks) is paid for by greater risk of neck injuries.

The "look at my crashed full face see the front is all scratched up imagine if it had been an open face" pictures are also somewhat misleading. The extra frontal weight of the full face pulls your head forward and down. So a full face is far more likely to end up scraping than a Jet style, where the weight of the helmet being at the back, your head is pulled back away from the road.

Over the decades I knew quite a few guys who crashed wearing open face. Never heard of one with mouth or jaw injuries. Of course SOMEWHERE is the world it will have happened to someone. But, the odds are low, and meaningless compared to the far greater overall dangers of motorcycling.

If you are that paranoid about getting hurt, maybe motorcycling's not for you.

Let everyone do their own thing. Motorcycling shuld not be about telling other people what to do.

[breakaway]

the bugs coating my face and challenging my sight was interesting but if you have't tried it I suggest you do.

No thanks, I'm quite fond of my chin and teeth.

[paulmac:Me]

Let everyone do their own thing. Motorcycling shuld not be about telling other people what to do.

This should be posted in every thread on KB !!!!!!

[Pedrostt500]

There was a photo on rotten.com that put me off open face helmets, for open road riding.

[cc rider]

Yip............ I'll have a cuppa tea if you're gonna make one

When I off'd & face planted into the gutter curb, my FF had scratch marks from the front of the visor around to the back. I did a rather good impersonation of a torpedo.

..but I'm still a smuck. I wear either. Yeah, tend to wear the open when jumping on the back of the HD. But prefer the FF. MP3 sounds better. Rah! Rah! RocknRoll!

That's black tea for me, thanks. Are there bikkies???

[scumdog]

Err...yes, unless of course you're actually in the market for facial reconstruction......
Whilst I appreciate them being cooler (temperature wise...) to wear and appreciate others right to wear what they want, I personally wouldn't wear one having seen the aftermath of accidents in them - rather than post gruesome pics just imagine for instance if this guy had had an open face:

http://jeff.dean.home.att.net/swisherhelmet1.jpg


Just my 2 cents...

On that note, "I personally wouldn't ride a motorbike having seen the aftermath of accidents on them.." - ya get me drift??

If you wear an open face (or 'shorty' as I do) you just make yourself aware of the increased risk and cope with it the best you can.

[Hans]

's why I have a flip-face...

[breakaway]

's why I have a flip-face...

I'm pretty sure those are no Bette than half face helmets if you come off. Was at the local dealership recently, and saw a sticker on a flip face saying it does not provide chin protection - i.e. It will flip up when your face hits the ground.

[JimO]

i suppose it the same as the retards that have their bike helmets hanging over their handelbars it wont happen to them or they will quickly chuck it on as they go over the bars, or like ixon said the weight of a open face will pull your head back......yea rite...its your head who gives a shit apart from you

[Motu]

There is also some quite reasonable evidence that the extra jaw protection of a full face (probably somewhat over rated when comparing with a Jet style where the helmet comes down to cover the cheeks) is paid for by greater risk of neck injuries.

The "look at my crashed full face see the front is all scratched up imagine if it had been an open face" pictures are also somewhat misleading. The extra frontal weight of the full face pulls your head forward and down. So a full face is far more likely to end up scraping than a Jet style, where the weight of the helmet being at the back, your head is pulled back away from the road.

Also the extra protective gear we wear these days makes us more cumbersome,physical movements are very restricted.I've crashed with no helmet,and most of my crashes were with an open face - but I'd also be wearing just a leather jacket at the most.The strongest force in a crash is Mother Nature's survival instinct - your body will exert the utmost means to keep your head off the ground....with a heavy full face you haven't got a hope of holding your head up.

We need Carver to do some videos of crashes with and without helmets,and open face compared to full face - I reckon he's up to the challenge....

[davereid]

I've crashed with no helmet,and most of my crashes were with an open face - but I'd also be wearing just a leather jacket at the most..with a heavy full face you haven't got a hope of holding your head up.....

Its almost a perfect example of the power of propaganda.

We have actually reached the point where new riders, or old ones returning, regard the helmet as an almost magical device.

Its credited with making motorcycling safe, and new riders can't even contemplate riding without one - phrases like "it makes my skin crawl" come to mind !

Yet for many years, we rode without them.

The introduction of helmets was so effective, that no one has ever correctly guessed the date of introduction from the crash death statistics I have published here on KB, as it didnt change anything.

There is no doubt in my mind that helmets save lives. But IMHO we massively overcredit them.

I often wonder if riders were prohibited from wearing helmets, if they would ride more safely, and take less risks !

[Motu]

I often wonder if riders were prohibited from wearing helmets, if they would ride more safely, and take less risks !

Definitely my stance on safety....they are so wrapped in cotton wool they think it's the only safe way to be.I'm sure if they rode around in T shirts and shorts with no helmets then motorcycle injuries and deaths would drop 100%.Nothing like the fear of death to make them wake up their ideas.I extend this to insurance too - if your car or bike will always be repaired or replaced and a loaner supplied for any inconvenience....why bother to take care?