Rego fees

[peasea]

I hope all you good people made a submission regarding the proposed increase in rego fees (ACC levies) for bikes over 600cc mooted in the 'Safer Journeys;' discussion document that our lovely government released a while back.

October 2 is the cutoff date; that's this Friday.

If you can't be arsed writing your own I have one on file, PM me for a copy.

Don't be a tired cunt........

[rosie631]

Yep, done mine. Fuckin rude pricks. They need to stop just increasing the load on the easily taxed categories like road users and start collecting from e.g. rugby players, mountain bikers etc. They must cost the country heaps in ACC but they don't pay any direct contribution like we do. The whole systems fucked IMO.

[peasea]

Yep, done mine. Fuckin rude pricks. They need to stop just increasing the load on the easily taxed categories like road users and start collecting from e.g. rugby players, mountain bikers etc. They must cost the country heaps in ACC but they don't pay any direct contribution like we do. The whole systems fucked IMO.

This from the ACC forum:
In the past three years, the bill for injuries has been $105 million, with the increasing cost blamed on growing player numbers.

They should pay a levy to play or have their own insurance. Just like skiiers and everyone else who wants to partake in a 'dangerous' pastime. We pay, so should they.

[NOWOOL]

What difference does it make? Either we ride within the law and pay the dues or we claim "cultural status and ignore the law and the court throws out the fees when the get to the ridiculous point. Maybe one day the laws will be strict. Meanwhile whine like a baby and blame it on a liberal nanny state.

[peasea]

What difference does it make? Either we ride within the law and pay the dues or we claim "cultural status and ignore the law and the court throws out the fees when the get to the ridiculous point. Maybe one day the laws will be strict. Meanwhile whine like a baby and blame it on a liberal nanny state.

Whine like a baby? Do you call having your say whining? Do you call standing up and saying "enough's enough" whining?

Apathy and laziness appear to be quite common among kiwis. "Sit on your hands, let someone else do it" is the all-too-common mantra.

I'd rather try to nip draconian laws and bids to impose extortionate levies in the bud, thank you. No doubt we'll not be hearing any moans from your neck of the woods if levies and fees rise to (possibly) double what they are now.

eh?

[Molly]

I also don't understand why ACC levies are payable on every bike you own when you can only ride one at a time. I could own a million bikes but it wouldn't change my risk of injury by 1%.

Also, where's the evidence that 600cc+ bikes are more risky than sub 600cc? The kids I see twatting around on scooters are a sight more dangerous than your average middle-aged, pie eating Harley enthusiast.

[p.dath]

I also don't understand why ACC levies are payable on every bike you own when you can only ride one at a time. I could own a million bikes but it wouldn't change my risk of injury by 1%.

There has been some talk on here of adding ACC to petrol, instead of rego's.

The advantage is, the more you use your bike, the more ACC you pay. If you have multiple bikes and only ride one at a time, you pay less. It also catches off road users, and those people who don't register their bikes/vehicles.

[rosie631]

I read recently that in Victoria, Australia they have just bought in a new thing where if you own more than one bike, you can claim back the acc levy (or whatever their equivalent is) part of the rego on all but one bike. Seems logical. Oh, of course, that will be why it hasn't been brought in in NZ.

[rosie631]

There has been some talk on here of adding ACC to petrol, instead of rego's.

The advantage is, the more you use your bike, the more ACC you pay. If you have multiple bikes and only ride one at a time, you pay less. It also catches off road users, and those people who don't register their bikes/vehicles.

That sounds like a fairer way of doing it too.

[p.dath]

I read recently that in Victoria, Australia they have just bought in a new thing where if you own more than one bike, you can claim back the acc levy (or whatever their equivalent is) part of the rego on all but one bike. Seems logical. Oh, of course, that will be why it hasn't been brought in in NZ.

How do they handle companies that own lots of bikes like motorcycle couriers?

[peasea]

I also don't understand why ACC levies are payable on every bike you own when you can only ride one at a time. I could own a million bikes but it wouldn't change my risk of injury by 1%.

Also, where's the evidence that 600cc+ bikes are more risky than sub 600cc? The kids I see twatting around on scooters are a sight more dangerous than your average middle-aged, pie eating Harley enthusiast.

Surely that would depend on how clumsy you are in the garage?

(And who are you calling a pie-eater?)

[p.dath]

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Also, where's the evidence that 600cc+ bikes are more risky than sub 600cc? The kids I see twatting around on scooters are a sight more dangerous than your average middle-aged, pie eating Harley enthusiast.

I can't quite remember the details behind this one when I read it, but I think accidents on 600cc and above bikes tended to be more severe (probably because higher speed was involved) as opposed to the number of accidents being higher.

[ukusa]

How do they handle companies that own lots of bikes like motorcycle couriers?

I would say that most, if not all courier bikes are well under 600cc. Can't think of many other types of business that would run big bikes other than the cops & bike rental/hire places.

[firefighter]

Seems logical. Oh, of course, that will be why it hasn't been brought in in NZ.

You would be able to register two vehicles under one name, yet two different drivers = ACC missing out on $.........

How do they handle companies that own lots of bikes like motorcycle couriers?

This is a typical meathead N.Zer problem creating rather than problem solving response which stops sensible things like the forementioned idea and GST being removed from fruit and veges......

Easy workable solution.....buisinesses don't get the refund.....

Is that just too easy or should I get into politics?

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

You would be able to register two vehicles under one name, yet two different drivers = ACC missing out on $.........

Not if ACC was done via the petrol at the pump