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    Too big a move up?

    I've been looking at bigger bikes and spotted one on TardMe I like the look of, it's a Kawasaki ZZR1100 C1. Is this too big a move up from a 250 or is it all in the amount of wrist movement ?? I'm generally a confident rider, ride in all weather but not been on anything bigger than a 250. I know it's my decision but like to see a bit of dissention, it's so rare

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    Quote Originally Posted by varminter View Post
    Is this too big a move up from a 250 or is it all in the amount of wrist movement ??
    You've about summed it up I reckon

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    I went from a GN250 to a FZR1000, pretty much a spur of the moment purchase too.

    It still proves to me who is more capable out of us two but with the right mindset, knowing you need to learn to control it, it's awesome.

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    Don't want to be a wet blanket...but...

    If your only experience on a road bike is on a Katana 250 which is a relatively light and modestly powered bike (39hp/160kg), then a ZZR1100 is a huge leap (150hp/233kg). Possibly doable if you are extremely confident, big enough to handle the increase in size and weight and have good self control.
    However, if it's just the look of the bike you like I would respectfully suggest that you look at a ZZR400 or 600, same styling but probably a much better stepping stone from the 250.
    But at the end of the day, it's your money, your life , your bike and of course your decision....

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    I'm feeling keen already. Better wait for the naysayers.

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    going from a 250 to a 1000 cc bike upgrade is a bit like ........ ummm... marrying your first girlfriend. Why would you want to do that when there is so much more fun to have in between?. What happens once you get used to it?? there really isnt much more to step up too.
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    If you are practiced in the art of self control-yes
    If you are fearless -no
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    Quote Originally Posted by varminter View Post
    I've been looking at bigger bikes and spotted one on TardMe I like the look of, it's a Kawasaki ZZR1100 C1. Is this too big a move up from a 250 or is it all in the amount of wrist movement ?? I'm generally a confident rider, ride in all weather but not been on anything bigger than a 250. I know it's my decision but like to see a bit of dissention, it's so rare
    There's a lot more to it than twisting your wrist.

    Do you have any riding buddies who know you well and have bigger bikes?

    I went from a 50 to a 150 to a 250 to a 650 and then to a 1050 (I like the 50 thing)

    My opinion now is that the bigger they are (the harder they fall) the easier they are to ride, but there are some physical issues to overcome.

    If you are a big strong guy, you willlearn really quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattian View Post
    going from a 250 to a 1000 cc bike upgrade is a bit like ........ ummm... marrying your first girlfriend. Why would you want to do that when there is so much more fun to have in between?. What happens once you get used to it?? there really isnt much more to step up too.
    Don't try to leap before you have learnt how to run
    What a laugh.
    I went from a GPX250 to a ZZR1100 and loved it, since then I've had mid-sized twins, some more big bore sport tours and have currently settled on a real world Hornet 900. Power isn't everything, there's flickability, handling, weight, style, position, I could go on forever.

    If you have common sense your progression will last your life time, no matter what size capacity your bike is.

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    What Mossy said.

    Very large forces are at work with a ZZR-11 and they'll remind you of them every time you need tyres, chain, etc. Fairing is quite tough in a low-speed spill, but the C model will be getting on a bit. The engine may not have been unduly stressed in its lifetime (though every previous owner will have tried to find out what the fuss was about at least once) but I bet it's not delivering all 150 horses any more...

    Crosswinds are a bugger on those, which may make a difference. Take a test ride and see how you go. If you live through the first week you'll get used to the rest of it. For a city commute it'll be capable enough, but as a mile-muncher it's brilliant (except in a crosswind).
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    Do it. You will be fine. Just FFS watch the rapidly building groundspeed, or you will find yourself stuck up something wondering how the hell...

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    I believe it's all down to the individual. If you're confident and understand the power of a bigger bike and above all, respect it, you'll be ok. In saying that, as in one of the earlier posts, why not go for something in between? More power than a 250, less weight than an 1100 etc. Build yourself up to it.

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    that nice (well annoying) but sometimes lifesaving delay between wanting to do something on a 250 and it doing it once it got it's act together and a big bike doing something before YOU'VE thought of it.
    Don't poke yourself into oncoming
    Bigger bikes are easier to ride (to a point), usually more capable and steady.
    Go for it mate.
    The only reason people kill themselves on big bikes (not because they jumped straight on them) is because they didn't respect them. Though I suppose jumping straight on is a slight form of disrespect but still... you'll be sweet as my left nut and cool as the right one.
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    [QUOTE=varminter;1129448357 Is this too big a move up from a 250 [/QUOTE]

    Yup IMO....

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    as others have said your self control will either save the day or leave you down and bruised (or worse)

    I went from 250GPX to ZZR1200. I love the bike and it is a pleasure to commute on or cruise all day. I did put in some time on a friend's Busa to get the feel for a big bike before taking the plunge.

    be warned the rush after 4000 revs can be addictive so pack the self control every time you go out

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