Warning: gravel, turkeys & cyclists!

[MarkH]

sounds like they are right

http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/factsheets/01.html

Sounds like they are wrong to me!

Ride in single file . . . when you're impeding traffic behind you.

How does that not apply when riding in a 100kph zone with other traffic on the road? I think that it would be safe to assume that a pair of bicycles traveling at less than 40kph would be impeding any and all traffic that comes up behind them when in a 100 zone, therefore they should always be in single file. Also as considerate motorists they should be in single file and as far to the left as is safe to ride. Also in terms of their own safety they should be as far to the left as possible and in single file.

Riding 2 abreast on the open road just ain't a good idea!

[Kiwi Graham:Me]

Cyclists are a concern in the city's too. They seem to think red lights aren't meant for them and will arrogantly cruise through is if not there at all.
They have specific lanes to cycle on/in but are often seen in groups several abreast clearly outside the line.
They are an arrogant race thats for sure.

[slofox]

Cyclists are a concern in the city's too. They seem to think red lights aren't meant for them and will arrogantly cruise through is if not there at all.
They have specific lanes to cycle on/in but are often seen in groups several abreast clearly outside the line.
They are an arrogant race thats for sure.

I came up behind a great herd of cyclists yesterday...100k zone. Totally blocking one side of the road. With some old dear puttering along behind at their speed - she couldn't pass because of oncoming traffic. Not a cyclist moved to make way for her. That's coz they own the road...

I noticed in this thread's title..."....turkeys and cyclists". You don't have to distinguish those two y'know...same thing...

[bogan]

Sounds like they are wrong to me!



How does that not apply when riding in a 100kph zone with other traffic on the road? I think that it would be safe to assume that a pair of bicycles traveling at less than 40kph would be impeding any and all traffic that comes up behind them when in a 100 zone, therefore they should always be in single file.

hmm, yeh, maybe thier factsheet is badly worded, i read that bit as if theres traffic stuck behind you pull over to let them pass, in shreks case they were only technically 'impeding' him during and after he almost ran them over. They should really have rear view mirrors for open road riding, and treat riding two up the same way other motorist do passing, only do it on clear roads with nobody behind you.

Also as considerate motorists they should be in single file and as far to the left as is safe to ride. Also in terms of their own safety they should be as far to the left as possible and in single file.

Riding 2 abreast on the open road just ain't a good idea!

Agree with you there

Thier speed seems comparable to that of a tractor, I even raced on once, was quiet hard to pass, then when i did he just drafted behind me (following the 0.1s rule ) hope he liked dust and deisle fumes. Anyhu, tractors as road users are:

1)fucking huge, load and hard too miss
2)required to display hazards and a spinning warning light (i think, we always have done anyway)
3)are generally driven by very courteous buggers (myself included ) who will pull over and wave you past etc, one guy took the pulling over thing a bit too far once and put his rake into a bridge, huge level of commitment!
4)pay to able to drive on the road (the contractors ones anyway)

So maybe cyclists need to step up their game!

[Swoop]

Cyclists are a concern in the city's too. They seem to think red lights aren't meant for them and will arrogantly cruise through is if not there at all.
They have specific lanes to cycle on/in but are often seen in groups several abreast clearly outside the line.
They are an arrogant race thats for sure.

I wonder if the plod like to increase their quota by ticketing illegal behaviour like this.

[flyingcrocodile46]

see post 5, he's a bit of a turkey!

Heh! Well Scatman sure does a fine job of gobbling whenever Beyond shoots

[retro asian]

Nice article in the Herald today...something about losing weight through cycling.

In a little box, they sum up 5-6 advantages of riding a push bike.
At the bottom though is only one disadvantage: "5 times more likely to die".

[SPman]

Hmmmmm.........gotta watch out for them turkeys.........who ever they are......

[Swoop]

Nice article in the Herald today...something about losing weight through cycling.

In a little box, they sum up 5-6 advantages of riding a push bike.
At the bottom though is only one disadvantage: "5 times more likely to die".

Yup. See post #50.

[Zrex]

Just how many points is a cyclist these days?

[_Shrek_]

you think it's dangerous for the cyclist's I was transporting a large loader home from Wanaka last week came around 75k corner in a 100k zone to fined two cyclist's taking up the left hand lane when there was a wide strip enough for two push bikes with oncoming traffic, after wearing flat spots in tyres stop short of running the *()&"!£$$% over & all the wankers could say is we have the right to ride two abreast after a bit of chit-chat we parted, way i see it cyclist's should be riding single file & inside the white line on the left hand side of the road in a 100k zone unless there is room for two end of rant

sounds like they are right

http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/factsheets/01.html

read the bold of my 1st post even if you read their rights it does not alow them to take up the hole lane especially when there was no need I sugest you read what rules must i follow point 2, 5 & under courtesy on the road of the above link you quoted, I don't normaly have a problem with cyclist's until they do dump shit like this & the fact they caused my employer about 2k in tyre's

[Badjelly]

At the bottom though is only one disadvantage: "5 times more likely to die".

As opposed to 20-ish for riding a motorbike?

[modboy]

Cyclists are a concern in the city's too.

Motorcyclists were considered a "concern" on the Rimutuka Hill road, so they double yellow lined the entire hill.

They seem to think red lights aren't meant for them and will arrogantly cruise through is if not there at all.

Are cyclists meant to stop at red lights?

They have specific lanes to cycle on/in but are often seen in groups several abreast clearly outside the line.

I can only speak for Wellington, if cagers stopped parking in the cycle lanes we might be able to use them.

They are an arrogant race thats for sure.

Unlike gxr riders
(no offence Stormer - haha)

[bogan]

read the bold of my 1st post even if you read their rights it does not alow them to take up the hole lane especially when there was no need I sugest you read what rules must i follow point 2, 5 & under courtesy on the road of the above link you quoted, I don't normaly have a problem with cyclist's until they do dump shit like this & the fact they caused my employer about 2k in tyre's

yeh, but it doesnt state you can't take up the whole lane riding two abreast, as far left as you safely can can mean different things, specially if theres lycra constricting blood flow to the brain. I agree that they are idiotic for riding that way.

Nice article in the Herald today...something about losing weight through cycling.

In a little box, they sum up 5-6 advantages of riding a push bike.
At the bottom though is only one disadvantage: "5 times more likely to die".

swoops linked article (think its the same) say 5 more cyclists will die, not 5 times likely, sounds a bit of an absolute number, but i spose the harold arent known for awesome journalling.

[jrandom]

Has anyone ever tried *555 for cyclists?

No, but I've had someone ring *555 due to my behaviour on a bicycle.



Many times, actually, for all I know, but I do know of one for sure, because the driver stopped to tell me about it.

The self-righteousness of the average human never ceases to amaze me.

They seem to think red lights aren't meant for them...

and will arrogantly cruise through

Well, that's not very nice. Personally, I make a point of cycling through red lights with humility.