Well bikers are screwed - ACC levy

[ukusa]

Stats are good. Be good to collect stats on how ACC collate motorcycle accidents. I'm sure plenty farm workers fall off quad bikes, the nursey ticks the "motorcycle accident tick box" and then the farm worker claims ACC, rehab etc for the next 10 years.

exactly, how many ACC claims are non registered bikes, like motocross/enduro/farm/trials/race etc

The pricks. Everyone gets tarred with the same brush. Bikers that do 2000 k's a year pay the same as one on the road for 50000 ks a year.. The whole ACC tax should be done on fuel, that way if you use your bike less or if you have several bikes, you still only pay for the kms you do.
Nasty for those who have 3 or 4 bikes in the shed!

[Bangbug]

100000 bikers camping cold kiwi style in spaghetti junction for a week screaming it would.
But I just like camping and screaming

[Ragingrob]

What really grinds my gears is how they rip out all the stats about how likely we are to crash, and what the injury rates/costs are etc etc... But seem to discount the fact that one car crash can injure/kill 5 people or more in the ONE car! Whereas bike incidents mostly involve the sole rider.

Like they said at the end of the report, gonna be a lot of people banking on the fact they might just get the odd fine rather than paying the yearly rego.

[glanvillejon]

I havnt been this ragingly angry in years..

Right now pretty much all I can think about is maiming politicians and ACC employees.

Lets see the fuckers try and take my money when we cut their fucking fingers off.

lmfao shit I was angry as hell, but now im laughing my titts off that was fucking good mate!! cut the fuckers fingers off that'll do it!

[Ender EnZed]

$745 is just the acc component.. A rego will around $950..
Ive 3 bikes, Ill register none. Just pay the fines. Ive been doing it for a few years now and havnt been nicked once..

How much is the fine???

[oscarnz]

Right, if nobody else will, I'll organise a fucking Hikoi down to Parliament against this bullshit.

Fuck upcoming exams, this is pricing us off the road, and in doing so is impinging upon my rights. I'm not going to fucking stand for it.

Edit: The cunts are meant to be encouraging the use of more environmentally friendly transport for fuck's sake.

Great idea I think a Hikoi to Parliament along with a petition is a awesome idea

[jtzzr]

Hikoi

Can`t be fucked walking , I`ll take my unregistered bike.

But i`ll be there .

[Meanie]

Guess im gonna have two unregistered bikes in the shed, no way im gonna pay that

[Ixion]

Well, here's an interesting figure.

Acc claim

In 2008/09 ACC paid more than $62 million for motorcycle riders but collected only $12.3 million in levies from them.

But, from here
(official and authorative source ) , total motorcycle casualties for 2008 were 1396 injured and 50 killed. Total 1446. Now unless my calculator has sprung a leak, that works out at $42876 average. For EVERY motorcycle crash. Including the minor ones, where the riders just given some sticking plaster and sent on his way.

Not at all sure that I believe that figure, in thes ense that it is probably true BUT massively inflated by a BIG contribution toward historical residual claims. Which the government have now said they can take till 2019, instead of 2012 , to fund. But ACC are ignoring the difference that extension would make to the levy. It works out at $100 less for ALL vehicles, but would be MUCh higher for bikes.

[Mikkel]

I am thinking I've got the solution.

Let's introduce an ACC levy for idiocy online - the amount of stress and discomfiture caused by this is significant and constitutes a real threat to public health - and then use that to fund the deficit.


No argument is ever going to make doubling or tripling ACC levies in one fell sweep reasonable.

[Headbanger]

Over the price of three no-rego tickets, you do the maths, get caught three or less times? - you are ahead!.

" how lucky do you feel, punk?"

How lucky do you feel?

[Maha]

Fuck this who's organising the ride.

From Auckland to Wellington time it to land in Welly at rush hour.

The logistics of making that happen will be near on impossible, can you imagine 1000 + bikes trying to negotiate thier way through peak hour traffic in Wellington?....the bike numbers may well be more, you should join Maki and his jaunt through Ekatahuna on the stroke of midnight..

[glanvillejon]

No reg does NOT mean you instantly lose insurance.

This was discussed a couple weeks back in a thread titled WOF grace period.

In short, for insurance to decline a claim the reason cited for doing so must be the result of something which had an affect in the claim. Eg, if you didn't have a wof, and your tyres were bald, and you ran off the road, they are within rights to say "yep, tyres shit, no insurance", if you didn't have a reg and ran off the road, they can NOT say "no reg, no claim" because not having a current registration label is not going to have any impact on if you have an accident or not, no way, no how.

Matt_TG in that thread posted the legals, I also posted a quote in the thread from an insurance policy.

Sweet, im not paying the fuckers then. Done.

[squip]

Watch this:
http://www.3news.co.nz/ACC-changes-t...7/Default.aspx

Towards the end is some interesting information - "They are collecting more levies than they are paying out in compensation" "No urgent need"

[dmc]

So if I go for a ride to the track to watch the racing I have to pay an insane amount of money in ACC levies, but if I drove to the track and then rode my bike as fast as I can on the track I pay nothing?