Well bikers are screwed - ACC levy

[Danae]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...post1129456757

No one started a thread so I dun did it mahself.

[BMWST?]

No they're not. 50% are people falling off on corners. By themselves.

what about the other 50 percent...

[Sharry]

Email bomb Nick Smith and John Key NOW

nick.smith@national.org.nz

john.key@national.org.nz

I just sent this:

Dear Dr Smith

I thought I would let you know that the proposed ACC levy increases for motorcycle registration are outrageous.

The likely response to this from motorcyclists will be similar to protests that have occurred in Europe i.e. We will not register our vehicles.

Regards

I have sent an email to then both.

Where does $257.69 come from? I have just registered my bike for 12 months and it cost $321.24

[bogan]

those figure dont smell right, we need an acc insider to clarify exactly what falls into the motorbike accidents cost.

Also with regards to the process, i agree with many other, we dont want to piss off the car drivers, we do want to draw attention to the issue. Big pile of bikes on welli waterfront with signs or summat, and maybe when we disperse the could be some skidmarks left telling of our cause.

also, holy shit popular thread, over a hundy members viewing!

[Cr1MiNaL]

So who is ultimately responsible for all of this BS I say? Us, we are ultimately responsible. We elect a group of people from amongst ourselves to govern our Nation without our permission. In other words we democratically elect a dictatorship. Nice.

[atothek]

Take a look at any emergency department in the weekend during winter - Rugby players all day. What ACC fees do Rugby players pay?

The NZRU pays a massive amount to ACC - luckily they make shitloads as well. Not sure if individual Unions also pay.

[High_Voltage]

Man wat the hell and it isnt even april fools day.
thats not going to encourage me to get a rego. its going to be cheaper to deregister your bike and re register it every year or yet still if you get puled over twice each year (on a 250 more on a 600) with no rego youll come out better off.
So whens the protest?

[MadDuck]

For people in Auckland who can't afford to get down to Wellington etc, they should camp out the local MPs offices and the ACC buildings.

-Indy

Well John Keys electoral office is in Kumeu (what wasnt burnt down) and Lockwood Smith is the local MP here in Rodney......

[Dafe]

When do these changes take effect?
I wanna go to the VTNZ in the morning if I still can..... Or can I do it online now at the old price??? Hmmmm

https://transact.landtransport.govt....nce/step1.aspx

[Ixion]

Just had a call from Tv wanting comment

And, an interesting comment from the ACCs submission document (please read this)

While ACC would like to improve the equity between vehicle classifications and move closer towards their true relativities, we recognise that the affordability of levies is important, as is the desire that the level of levies charged does not result in vehicle owners choosing not to license and warrant their vehicles each year.

[pzkpfw]

Ive 3 bikes, Ill register none. Just pay the fines. Ive been doing it for a few years now and havnt been nicked once..

I'm not writing this to hassle you, you do what you want, that's cool.

But this points out another problem with this type of "law".

The law abiding folk end up paying, and those that ignore the law get a free ride.

And if you come off your bike (your fault or not) you'll still get the same ACC cover as those that paid their ACC fees.


Stupid useless systems. (Like firearm registration - like when are the bank robbers going to go register their weapons? Nope; it's just the folk who want to follow the rules who go through all the hassles.)


(Again, this is not at you in particular...)

[Trudes]

Who's Gonna Organize The First Parliament Protest for This Weekend?????

RIGHT

Who's keen for a campout on Labour weekend?

Gather your motorcycling buddies and ride down in your own time...bring food or money for food. If you're already in Wellington you have no excuse!

To make any sort of difference we need media coverage and we need them to know what we are actually protesting about.

I am so in!!! I love camping. I'll bring the camp toilet.

[Bangbug]

10 most dangerous occupations according to ACC levies:
Rugby player (league or union)
Horse racing and husbandry
Logging and forestry
Cricketer
Pest control, hunting and trapping
Fishing
Meat processing
Equine sports (not racing)
Shearing
Sawmilling and chipping
Source: ACC

[davereid]

Any protest, or disagreement needs a goal.

IMHO.

ACC is a "no-fault" system.

So, I suggest we set our target at the same rego fee as a car.

Otherwise we may be tempted to accept a $500-%600 figure as "a good deal".

The fact that we have more accidents or that they cost more, in a "no fault system" is irrelevant.

For example, should women pay more than men because they have a higher risk of rape ?

Should tall people pay more than short because they have a higher risk of back injury ?

[vstrom]

One bike in the middle of every car park in the middle of town for a day in every town would get a lot of attention ,would only take 50 bikes per town. i got three bikes ,still cant ride more than one at a time if i rego all three ,well bugger me $2250 per year,plus the increase levy im going to pay at work im fucked