Well bikers are screwed - ACC levy

[fi5hy]

Yes ACC does pay for the rehab on motorbike riders but how many of those a registered bikes on the road???? I bet when Jo blogs farmer falls form his quad bike he says oh I fell off my motorbike, or when you have a trail ride or motocross its the same? . Out of all the bikes sold in NZ how many of them a road registered?? very little I think so why is it that the road rider gets nailed??? From now on you all fell off a chair at home to break your leg or coller bone

[6ft5]

no problem, will use a few of my email addresses and physical addresses to attack this

[Hotchefnz]

Bike shop owners will be shitting them selves over this crap - who wants to stock the big bikes now>?

[jafar]

Wow all this indignation over being charged a few extra pennies for keeping a no fault insurance system that everyone is locked into. If they got half of the bludgers off the acc gravy train then they wouldn't need the increase.

I personally would prefer to see ACC scrapped & replaced by private insurance or @ the very least give the ACC the ability to sue those who cause the claims.

[Hopeful Bastard]

Hrmm.. Mass gathering at Beehive while they are sitting sounds a good idea. Everyone posted at all entrances/exits to the beehive so when it comes to them wanting to Sit or leave they will run late and cant get in or out. I am sure there will be more than enough bikes/people to swamp the beehive.

I dont have a bike yet, But this isnt going to stop me from getting one.. Looks like i will be running both the car AND bike without rego's...


It is time this government took a step backwards and realised that Bikies WERE NOT a good starting group to pick on!

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

I personally would prefer to see ACC scrapped & replaced by private insurance or @ the very least give the ACC the ability to sue those who cause the claims.

I do hope you mean if a cage cuts a corner and takes out the bike that they sue the cage driver, not the biker for making the ACC claim...

[jafar]

I do hope you mean if a cage cuts a corner and takes out the bike that they sue the cage driver, not the biker for making the ACC claim...

Of course, whoever is the cause of the injury should be able to be sued to recover costs, in the same way as insurance companies chase money from the "at fault" party in a crash.

[Naki Rat]

we need more than just those statistics, also biking accident cause numbers, sports accidents, workplace accidents to make it all stick

All this information is available under the Official Information Act (or some such name). Now just find the appropriate contact and request a copy of it. If we all do so it should tie up a few government lackeys for some time. Gotta love civil disobedience

[Little Smurf]

Well, I'll probably sell my bike and buy a full-carbon cycle. .

Careful they will probably find a way to tax cyclists too

Bike shop owners will be shitting them selves over this crap - who wants to stock the big bikes now>?

Oh hell yes, it just made buying a bike a hell of alot more expensive, and to think that m/b shops aren't already doing it a bit tough they certainly don't need this


Why aren't insurance companies jumpin up and down, if people can't afford to register their bikes they certainly won't bother paying for insurance.

[GOONR]

.....Why aren't insurance companies jumpin up and down, if people can't afford to register their bikes they certainly won't bother paying for insurance.

Because insurance companies will be inline to take over from ACC. I used to work for a insurance company, they have had something in the pipeline for a year or so... Just in case.

[Pedrostt500]

One thing I noticed is that SUVs were lumped in with cars, how many accidents to others were involving SUVs?.

[ready4whatever]

watch out!

[IdunBrokdItAgin]

Haven't had time to read all through this thread so apologies if brought up before but

two things:

Firstly - Is everyone forgetting that this is a catch up of a black hole covered up by labour. Petitioning national about it will do didly squat. ACC got f@cked under labour governance - any private company would not have been allowed to get this far into the red. The situation of the black hole still stands whether NZ likes it or not.

Secondly - doesn't the amount of crashes point out that the testing guidelines are too weak. I don't think it is limited to bikers but if a car crashes they are comparatively well protected from harm - if a bike crashes then ACC is more likely to be called upon. Get the bloody easy testing certs fixed and you will make a good headway into this not happening again in the next couple of decades.

Me: I'm on my restricted and doing all the courses I can. I'm a middle aged rider new to the game. But basic handling and restricted are a piece of piss. It all seems a bit too easy to me.
I took an optional advanced riding course a couple of months back which helped my riding no end. but this doesn't help me with my licensing - no a classroom course on hazard detection (rather than how to be a competent rider) just halved my time to get my full! Daft or what - both have their advantages but one without the other is pointless. If riders fall off on corners (with no one else about) they only have themselves to blame.

In simple terms it seems that you can get an NZ license from your favourite cereal packet.

[NordieBoy]

When I got a tax cut I put that money away and saved it .
Turned out I saved my tax cut to pay tax.
I only get 55hp for my $750 plus road user 100 odd.Not good value.
3000ks per year is 30 cents per k.

I would love 55hp for my $750.

Only 37hp here

Think of the KLR 650 riders.
34odd HP for the same money.

[Timber020]

Wow all this indignation over being charged a few extra pennies for keeping a no fault insurance system that everyone is locked into. If they got half of the bludgers off the acc gravy train then they wouldn't need the increase.

I personally would prefer to see ACC scrapped & replaced by private insurance or @ the very least give the ACC the ability to sue those who cause the claims.

Thats what john key wants to I suspect, that way insurance companies and lawyers can get alot more work and get really really rich. Guess who they get rich off?

Spend some time in the US and see how utterly crap that system works. It makes EVERYTHING more expensive and the insurance industry just screws everyone over.