Well bikers are screwed - ACC levy

[rosie631]

It would be interesting to know how much we all actually pay in ACC levies. For me, it's 2 cars, 1 bike, wages, petrol. Probably a few more sneaky ways they're collecting it too. By the time all that's added up I am damn sure I could get it privately for less.
I work in the private health system and we used to do a lot of orthopaedic work for ACC. They have clamped right down on claims and are calling every injury they can 'wear and tear'. So basically we are paying a LOT more for sweet FUCK ALL.

[peasea]

Totally agree, consolidated submission and well organised protest rides. I would guess that it needs to be done soon though, the media is watching right now!

Cutoff date for submissions was October 2nd. I organised literally dozens of them, did you send one? I doubt they got read but if people don't have their say then they can't whinge when then things don't go the way they'd like them to.

Protest rides will achieve much the same but that won't stop me going on at least one. I'm happy to do one locally as well as go to Wellington.

[peasea]

Totally agree, consolidated submission and well organised protest rides. I would guess that it needs to be done soon though, the media is watching right now!

That's what I was thinking, strike while the iron is hot, use the mass-media like a tool. (Coz most of em are tools.)

[peasea]

It really needs to happen before November 10th to have any real effect as that's when the submissions close (unless they would be likely to change anything after that? Unlikely I think..)
Regional rides are a good idea for those that can't make Wellington, though a ride on Parliament would certainly get the media machine working, perhaps a petition organised in conjunction with each regional ride and then all copies presented to the Minister/PM at the culmination of a ride to Parliament, with BRONZ coordinating the whole thing?

November 10th??
I was of the understanding that submissions regarding the (then) proposed ACC levy increases were due in by October 2nd! We've sent in shitloads of them from local riders.

[BMW]

Ouch - Fuck thats a big increase.

I really dont think I can justify keeping the bike registered

It will be cheaper to get two 'not registered' tickets per year

Guys, we really do need to fight this - especially as most bike accidents are caused by cages in the first place...

agreed! the cost is worth getting caught twice.
The sick thing is alot of us use a car as well. So we are paying twice. Once to ride a bike and then again to have a car.

[SARGE]

fuck me .. my small bike is 1000cc..


im just not gonna rego either one of them and take my chances ...


how bout getting the ACC off prisoners, drink related injuries and ACC abusers?..

i have 2 big bikes .. i can only ride one at a time .. how about making ACC a levy on drivers licenses so youre covered on whatever youre riding/ driving?

i already pay nearly NZ$900 on my taxes for ACC levy .. plus the fuel levy .. plus my car.. plus my bikes .. etc .. enough is enough already ..

[Trudes]

SO who wants to come down to the Beehive with me today in full motorcyle attire to wander about with "Scapegoat" signs?

[5150]

Can anyone tell me how to disconnect one cylinder on my 1100 boxer twin so it still runs fine, thus making it 550cc??? Problem solved me thinks.

And to mr Prick Smith? Go and FUCK your self !!!!!!

[vstrom]

motorcycling just got cheaper, bike values are going to drop big time ,thanks all you low km bikers doing a few km a year subsidizeing those of us doing 30000 plus km a year, this sux, i think there will be a lot of outlaw bikers rideing unreged ,

[cs363]

November 10th??
I was of the understanding that submissions regarding the (then) proposed ACC levy increases were due in by October 2nd! We've sent in shitloads of them from local riders.

Yep...see attached document on this post: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...6&postcount=48 for full details, but here's the relevant quote:

"Making a submission
ACC is encouraging New Zealanders and affected organisations to have their say.

Submissions must include: Your name
Your address
Your contact phone number(s)

You can send your submission: By post: Levy Consultation
ACC
PO Box 242
Wellington 6140
By fax: 04 918 4395
By email: consultation@acc.co.nz

Deadline for submissions: 5pm, 10 November 2009"

[tzrmike]

This has reinforced what I have thought for a while about governments.

Governments are like an abusive husband. They slap us round for around 2 1/2 years, then 3 months out from the election, it's "I'm sorry babe, I promise I'll never hit you again", etc. This will last for about 3 months after the election if a new government is elected, or less if it's re-elected, then it's back to slapping us around.

Well, like the battered wife, we have two options. Leave the prick or stuck a knife in his heart while he's sleeping...

[5150]

Why don't they also put masive ACC levy on Alcochol? thats what causes majority of accidents in the first place!!!!!

Our goverment seems to forget that we voted them in and gave them power. Our taxes pay their salaries, so technically they work for us. We should be able to fire their arses!!!!

Anyway off to drown my sorrows in a bottle of beer

[dmc]

It may well have been suggested but I'm sure if 10's of thousands of bike owners all head in to their nearest post shop and put their rego on hold the intake of ACC levies will dry up really fast, I think they will take notice of that more than us jumping up and down.

[Toshcole]

What gets me is that most crashs are by off roaders who show up at hospital with a broken fingure,arm,leg and they are recorded as a motorcycle accident. They dont have to register these bikes. In addtion to this. they dont understand that bikes fall into sections

Cruiser/tour. larger cc and very slow
Sport bike. Small cc and up...and very fast
commutors. small to large cc and run and half the gas that a car does with an entire lower carbon footprint


This is an attack on a lifestyle, one Ive had for over 40 years. My wife and i work hard and use our bike for plessure. A 1500 goldwing, or 1580 halrey is a tour cruiser,and it defies logic to lump us in with the sport bike or dirt bikes...My father is 80 and still rides a CX 500. he is gutted!!!!

[yungatart]

Whilst I am still outraged at this shafting, I wouln't be quite so angry if a some of my levy dollars were going to fund decent rider education/skills courses.
Perhaps if ACC were to fund these courses (out of the levy collected), and then those who attend get a rebate on their levy...food for thought?
A yearly refresher course at the beginning of spring.....