What the Labour Party are doing?

[Ms Piggy]

I just got a personal reply to an email I sent to Ruth Dyson due to her knowing my Aunty (Pinky Agnew - who btw wants to help us out however she can).

From Ruth Dyson:

Sigh - we sure have a Nat/Act govt!! We (all Labour team) will be asking David Parker to formally reply on our behalf. Because you are not only related to Pinky but also under described her - ie just "fabulous". - thought I would let you know straight away that we are on your side on this (and demonstrated by our nine years of fair levy setting) - and also that I am a fan of Pinky and also of T, her brother.
Best wishes,
Ruth

[SixPackBack]

I just got a personal reply to an email I sent to Ruth Dyson due to her knowing my Aunty (Pinky Agnew - who btw wants to help us out however she can).

From Ruth Dyson:

The term 'hypocrite' comes to mind. Ruth Dyson was caught drink driving in 2000........getting her involved in the ACC fight 'on our side' is not a good look.

[Skyryder]

[QUOTE=Ms Piggy;1129468536]I just got a personal reply to an email I sent to Ruth Dyson due to her knowing my Aunty (Pinky Agnew - who btw wants to help us out however she can).



With all due respect Miss Piggy I don't see any curve balls coming from Labour. Unless they can come up with something other than what they would have done...........and SBP makes a good point?? Dyson has been compromised in this issue and all others where safety is concerned.

Skyryder

[sAsLEX]

From Ruth Dyson:

(and demonstrated by our nine years of fair levy setting)

Hmmmm I wonder why ACC is in the state its in? 9 years of mismanagement, or the short time Nat has been up there?

[Grumpy]

The term 'hypocrite' comes to mind. Ruth Dyson was caught drink driving in 2000........getting her involved in the ACC fight 'on our side' is not a good look.

I don't have the best of memories but wasn't Ruth Dyson the MP that helped stop ACC hiking our levies back in '93?

[StoneY]

Hmmmm I wonder why ACC is in the state its in? 9 years of mismanagement, or the short time Nat has been up there?

You have missed the post where ACC's creator states that the National govt of 98 created today's situation, my friend?



Its the way the 'new' method of prediction of earnings applies that gets us this 'shortfall' one that we did not have (nowhere as bad I should say) with the way it had been managed ill last year....

An observation only

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...d.php?t=110397

[Brian d marge]

Friend of the family's too is she

I think my mum stood for the alliance in order to take votes away from david ( nice but dim) carter

in order that Ruth could win the seat

Sorry but even Judge Dread has said on National Radio that the management team of ACC have been quite good

Yes the scope has increased , such as Champlerbacter ( sp)a disease caught when you handle chickens I believe , has only recently been made a work related injury ,,,

Dont get me started on the meat works , where a blunt knife and line speeds can give you a might hard time

either way the more weight the better

Stephen

[rainman]

Hmmmm I wonder why ACC is in the state its in? 9 years of mismanagement, or the short time Nat has been up there?

Or maybe the dire situation presented by Nick Smith (with Rodney waiting in the wings rubbing his hands with glee) isn't actually, y'know, true?

Labour's been a bit slow moving on this issue (and a bunch of others, lately). Some of the message is starting to get through on their blog though: http://blog.labour.org.nz/index.php/...barbaras-bike/

[Mully]

Can we please try not to make this issue a National/Labour thing?

Let's not pretend that Labour would not have done the same had they been in power (remember they hid the extent of the ACC issue prior to the election)

I think it's important that we don't let the parties divide and conquer us.

I'm happy to use the politicians for our purposes, but I think we have to make sure they don't use us for their purposes.

[Digitdion]

Can we please try not to make this issue a National/Labour thing?

Let's not pretend that Labour would not have done the same had they been in power (remember they hid the extent of the ACC issue prior to the election)

I think it's important that we don't let the parties divide and conquer us.

I'm happy to use the politicians for our purposes, but I think we have to make sure they don't use us for their purposes.

Couldn't agree more. Lets end this fruitless banter, and focus on the real issue. And if you can not bloody control your political prowess,well, at least save it till the next election.

[Ms Piggy]

getting her involved in the ACC fight 'on our side' is not a good look.

It was more just to let everyone know what Labour are doing not suggest Ruth Dyson get involved. But, a very good point!

[SixPackBack]

It was more just to let everyone know what Labour are doing not suggest Ruth Dyson get involved. But, a very good point!

I dislike all politicians, self serving wretched souls they be, but if motorcyclists can garner their services succesfully then so be it.

Dyson's DIC charge could bite-best to keep that in mind.

[James Deuce]

ACC is making money. They have loss leaders i.e. road users, and profit centres especially their investment team.

There is nothing wrong with ACC's financial performance. It is the only government portfolio making money. National have decided that we're thick enough to believe that all aspects of a successful commercial operation make money, and that the ACC shoul dbe run on commercial models. You know, lose billions of dollars and pay management large bonuses. At least ACT and the Maori Party haven't fallen for that yet.

With all due respect to Agnews everywhere Labour didn't go there with levys because they had no intention of getting rid of ACC where National will do everything they can to privatise it, despite failing last time around and driving an Australian insurer or two into bankruptcy. How Ms Dyson can describe singling motorcyclists out for a separate levy as "fair" is beyond me. "Fair" would be an insurance levy on Home & Contents insurance to cover DIYers, cooking accidents, and falling over in the bath.

[shrub]

Hmmmm I wonder why ACC is in the state its in? 9 years of mismanagement, or the short time Nat has been up there?

ACC aren't actually in the shit at all, it's all a game played with smoke and mirrors and changing the way ACC are required to fund themselves - ACC are now required to be able to fund accidents in the future. My guess is the orders have come to fill the coffers in preperation for a sale so the new (probably foreign) owner has a valuable asset. Then they will charge us all market rates and us naughty, DANGEROUS bikers will have to pay what they calculate we cost them to fix us (using their accountants). Privatisation will mean you'll either have to pay squillions in ACC levies (think thousands) or cover your own accident injury costs and not get money if you're off work.

It's all good. Except for us.

[PrincessBandit]

ACC aren't actually in the shit at all, it's all a game played with smoke and mirrors and changing the way ACC are required to fund themselves - ACC are now required to be able to fund accidents in the future. My guess is the orders have come to fill the coffers in preperation for a sale ....

Not to mention all the crashes they'll be anticipating if the give way rules change again. (Which apparently DIDNT happen in Melbourne when they abolished the "give way to the right" back in '93).