Cats-eyes and corners

[CookMySock]

maybe you should have counter-steered around the cats eyes...

Do I have to yell at you or something before you GET IT ?

I didn't ATTEMPT to AVOID the fucking things, because I DIDN'T KNOW it was unsafe to HIT THEM. Capice?

Did I learn my lesson? Yep. Did I share it with others? Yep. Did you miss the point and blow your mouth off? Yep.

For fucks sake, I hope you can instruct better than you can comprehend.

lols.. sign up & come & do a course.. & then you might actually be in a position to comment... instead of just blowing out your arse.. like you are doing..

You are not this smart. Think about it.

Steve

[jrandom]

Best you do.. thanks for the giggles!!

Any time, ma'am.

Might see you at the track sometime now that you've learned all there is to know about hill starts and countersteering, eh?

[duckonin]

BMWST is correct....its not rocket science....bumps in road are to be avoided.
Try to use parts of the road that dont have bumps..

Try to use roads not laid by Fulton Hogan then...

[FROSTY:Me]

Jen heres the thing. EVERYBODY makes mistakes. A momentary loss of concentration is all it takes sometimes. The secret is learn from them

[MyGSXF:Me]

Jen heres the thing. EVERYBODY makes mistakes. A momentary loss of concentration is all it takes sometimes. The secret is learn from them

Fer sure hun.. life is all about learning.. me included!!

Tis the attitude here that bothers me..

[FROSTY:Me]

Fer sure hun.. life is all about learning.. me included!!

Tis the attitude here that bothers me..

Nahh taint the attitude tis the internet percieved attitude.
Reality and whats prtrayed on the net is something different.

[MSTRS:Me]

Taken seriously or not, though, the obnoxious would still give you the learn.

Oh, I'm sure you could. In some things.
How many times have you been walking due to demerits? I'm quite sure that I can 'give you the learn' in that department... back at ya

[jrandom]

How many times have you been walking due to demerits?

I don't walk.

I cycle.

[p.dath]

Oh, I know you do. I saw your 'look at meeeee' thread.

And that's why I was generous, and gave you ten percent. I should note that I'd probably give DB about five.

Unfortunately, though, a hundred hours of training in parroting 'this is how not to fall off your bike' tips to learner riders will only get you so far.

As Austin Powers would say, "Ouch baby". I don't see anything wrong with the advice given.

So are you saying you think the advice is wrong, or not sufficiently descriptive enough to be useful?

It's really easy to personally attack someone. That needs no skills except a keyboard.

If you don't agree with the advice why not counter it with some better advice, so your years of riding experience can help others?

[MSTRS:Me]

I don't walk.

I cycle.

Good for you. How is your weight-loss program going, anyway?

[PrincessBandit]

I learnt the hard way not to hit them in the wet while overtaking a car in the rain on a hill. It was blowing a gale and all was clear for the move (dual lanes, wasn't an overtake in terms of moving into the opposing traffic lane) and I just clipped one when woah the front wheel started to lift and knock from side to side. Not massively, or I probably would have been off the road ever since! but enough to make me ease off and relax my grip (wasn't easy to do). Ever since, I've avoided hitting them if I can, or anything else that's likely to have the same effect.

[jrandom]

Good for you. How is your weight-loss program going, anyway?

I'm down 25kg since the beginning of the year.

And the cycling has allowed me to achieve that while maintaining my high-performance diet of steak and cheese pies, cream doughnuts, beer and pizza.

[MSTRS:Me]

I learnt the hard way not to hit them in the wet while overtaking a car in the rain on a hill. It was blowing a gale and all was clear for the move (dual lanes, wasn't an overtake in terms of moving into the opposing traffic lane) and I just clipped one when woah the front wheel started to lift and knock from side to side. Not massively, or I probably would have been off the road ever since! but enough to make me ease off and relax my grip (wasn't easy to do). Ever since, I've avoided hitting them if I can, or anything else that's likely to have the same effect.

That's a tankslapper. Ideal conditions for starting one of those is to be (and it can be very slightly) leaning, under acceleration and hitting a bump or hollow in the road surface. Very common on corner exits.

[jrandom]

As Austin Powers would say, "Ouch baby". I don't see anything wrong with the advice given.

So are you saying you think the advice is wrong, or not sufficiently descriptive enough to be useful?

It's really easy to personally attack someone. That needs no skills except a keyboard.

If you don't agree with the advice why not counter it with some better advice, so your years of riding experience can help others?

The advice itself was the canonical way to advise a new rider to go slowly around a corner without falling off.

Of course, those who never move beyond that advice are doomed to spend the rest of their lives teetering slowly around corners and expounding it to others as though it were the be-all and end-all of how to ride.

(It also appears that some of them then start 'riding schools' dedicated to getting paid for expounding that advice, which also offer advanced classes in... hill-starts and countersteering. Heh!)

Anyhow, the above approach can be limiting, not to mention dangerous when situations present themselves that require a deeper understanding of control dynamics.

That aside, I took issue with the condescending tone in which MyGSXF delivered the advice to DB.

Her 'certification' qualifies her to dispense 'how not to fall off' advice to new riders, nothing else, and it is good to remind the Gentle Readers of that fact, lest they see this thread but fail to realise that there is far more to motorcycling than braking on the straight and throttling on gently once the corner exit is in sight.

[ital916]

Okay, I am still confused. How did you hit a catseye? Country road, left hander, you are in the right hand half of the lane exiting the corner and your front wheel hits a catseye. If you are still cranked over exiting the corner, hitting the catseye you must have been running wide...very wide? Or I have misread the situation.

Note: I have not read the posts of waffle, I just skipped from post 1 to here.

Yeah, I only hit catseyes on motorways, when changing lanes, having misjudged the timing to pop between them. Anyway, I hope you apologised to the cat and that their eye is feeling much better.