Rider thinking

[Yammy fazer Tat]

Just to put it out their, I have been riding motorbikes for 27 yrs now and I have been back in NZ for 6 yrs. I used to ride my GPZ 5 days a week in London on the north circular for work commuting.
Over there even with the larger volumes of traffic , bike included. It was alot easier to filter through the traffice in the rush hours.

If you are reading this and agree cool, however to the guys here who zoom through rush hour here, bro you are giving bikers a bad name. Plus think about the public who think well that's why ACC is being hiked up.

I have witnessd a guy being hit by a car on the north western doing this, and he had the nads to say it was the drivers fault. Bro I stopped and help him take his bike to the side of the road, and told him to not stop in the traffic and abuse the driver. Fair enough we are sometimes in a hurry, me included, I filter through the traffice, but with alot of caution. My other half is alway on the back pillion and I think of here safety. I was born and raised out west, so I think that can validate my rant.

[The Baron]

Some bike riders are not as good as they think they are.

Some cage drivers are not as good as we hope they are.

[Marmoot]

Good post.

When I filter, I always think that my bike is worth too much. And that if I crash or get crashed, regardless of whose fault it is I'd be the one kissing the ground and end up with an imperfect bike.

That keeps me away from certain risks.

Only pick fights that you can definitely win.

[CookMySock]

to the guys here who zoom through rush hour here, bro you are giving bikers a bad name. Plus think about the public who think well that's why ACC is being hiked up.

I dont care. If I am legal on my bike I will do as I choose. I don't care if cagers think that is why acc is being hiked up - what other know-nothings think is irrelevant.

Society would be a lot better off if they minded their own business and went and did their own thing. If they want to split a bike through traffic, or any other legal activity, then go hard - it doesn't affect me. If they want to sit in their car and fume, then so be it - that doesn't affect me either.

Steve

[gwigs]

I dont care. If I am legal on my bike I will do as I choose. I don't care if cagers think that is why acc is being hiked up - what other know-nothings think is irrelevant.

Society would be a lot better off if they minded their own business and went and did their own thing. If they want to split a bike through traffic, or any other legal activity, then go hard - it doesn't affect me. If they want to sit in their car and fume, then so be it - that doesn't affect me either.

Steve

Well I for one do care what the cagers think ,we want them on our side don,t we?And know nothings...?WTF?

[CookMySock]

Well I for one do care what the cagers think ,we want them on our side don,t we?

People will ride you until you are dead if you think like that.

Go and do as you choose. No person has any say in it, as long as you are legal. If they disapprove, well who gives a toss. If you only do things that are approved of, you better get your cardboard box nicely carpeted, because that is the only safe place you will find.

Get out into the world and take it by its horns. It's yours.

Steve

[gwigs]

People will ride you until you are dead if you think like that.

Go and do as you choose. No person has any say in it, as long as you are legal. If they disapprove, well who gives a toss. If you only do things that are approved of, you better get your cardboard box nicely carpeted, because that is the only safe place you will find.

Get out into the world and take it by its horns. It's yours.

Steve

So according to you its OK to ride like a pillock as long as your still legal...
People like you give us all a bad name...
By the way watch out for cats eyes..

[vgcspares]

I've been trawling through a claims database and amongst other things I've uncovered is how few filtering accidents we have had - a handful only

but the number fwhere the rider chose to go straight while the road decided a bend was due is huge ...

so I don't think filtering is actually the problem unless we're just considering PR with cagers

[Headbanger]

I filter through the traffice, but with alot of caution. My other half is alway on the back pillion and I think of her safety.

So, Whats your best case scenerio?, That people doing what you consider to be dangerous should cease to do what they are doing?

So, Would you then consider following that to its next logical step?, and ceasing to do what others would consider to be dangerous and foolhardy?

I'm sure it would be no problem to find 100 people who consider filtering to be dangerous full stop, and to be disgraceful when done with a pillion.

We could also find 100 people that consider even riding a Motorcycles to be so dangerous that people simply should not be doing it.

The world is full of people who want to regulate what others do based on their own perception, To control the actions of people they have never met, and your one of them.

[CookMySock]

The world is full of people who want to regulate what others do based on their own perception, To control the actions of people they have never met, and your one of them.

Thats exactly what I am saying.

So according to you its OK to ride like a pillock as long as your still legal...

No, I am saying whatever you do in your life, there WILL BE lots of people who want to call you a pillock and label you with all sorts of disapproving shit, for doing what you find quite normal, and that you should ignore them and continue going about your legal business.

People can and will control you if you let them. Don't let them. Go do as you choose. Ignore the screams of disapproval and soon you will find that its quite amusing, and soon after that you will discover you can actually manipulate them using the same technique for your gain. Now you become one of the strong.

Steve

[sleemanj]

Protesting "but I was legal" is quite difficult from 6ft under.

[dipshit]

A lot of motorcyclists have shit for brains.

[CookMySock]

Protesting "but I was legal" is quite difficult from 6ft under.

That is a different topic. We are not talking about what is dangerous, we are talking about what is frowned upon.

Steve

[crazyhorse]

I'm still trying to do the filter thingy

[StoneY]

Well this last week in particular Wellington public have been proactively making ROOM on the two mottorways I ride along...and others have said much the same

I have had cars and trucks and vans yell "ACC sux" as I wait at lights, and even as I ride between them at 15-20kms more than the crawl they are doing, so while I get what Fazzer is trying to say, I am in disagreement that 'filtering' is an issue in our country

The mad wheelie pulling, yellow line riders that cut in on my front wheen on the Taka's is far more od a concern to me