Not impressed with spokesman

**mdooher** · 22nd October 2009, 19:03

[QUOTE=Flip;1129474400]Les did a brillant job. He looked like my dad the average working man, which is a very strong place to be when taking on ACC and did not look like some prick in a suit.
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Dead right, we don't need some super smooth dude. We wan't joe public to feel for the underdog

**mynameis** · 22nd October 2009, 19:05

Originally Posted by NighthawkNZ

What we need is a 10-15 minute spot (or more) where we put all our arguements across... without interference... including the arguement that ACC aint broke.... to cover all road accidents it would only coast $100 a vehicle... there are other ways and places of put theACC levy

ie put an ACC on traffic infringment, and even on the WOF

Other than that well don Ixion

15 mins, only if you're running for PM I suppose.

Above can be done via submissions.

**DarkAngel** · 22nd October 2009, 19:05

Did they really ask for $10k to disclose the supporting data?!

If they don't deliver someone should make a formal request under the OIA.

**Katman** · 22nd October 2009, 19:06

Originally Posted by Quasievil

BULLSHIT, he did extremely well, the fact he wasnt a smooth talking young stylish handsome broadcaster moulded into a corporate attack dog was to our advantage, he presented well got the points across and cut the ACC down suitably given the short time frame, Ive seen more media savy people get less through in a short time than Ixion on many occasions.

Fuck Im pissed with this thread, KB is now offically to big and to full of dickheads. At a time when we should be united and supporting our own we have this BS to contend with !!

Wake up Brett, he looks impressive to you because you are a motorcyclist.

The whole idea of TV coverage is not to impress other motorcyclists - it is to get the general public on our side. To do so we need someone who comes across as convincing and compelling to non-motorcyclists.

**Flip** · 22nd October 2009, 19:07

Originally Posted by lee.j

not to sure about the spokesman on close up???
If thats the state of representation of the bike community where boned !!!

Do you work for ACC?

Or are you just wrong.

**sinfull** · 22nd October 2009, 19:07

Les's mug was the perfect one to be on national tele i felt ! Not to mention the only one with the balls to do so !! I felt relaxed with the job he did !

The lead up to that slot showed helmetless harley riding hoons did it not ??
What better way to belittle that original picture, than by some sweet gentle innocent old man fronting Bronze on TV

He spoke as fluently as he was allowed and even gave up on the presenter interupting him and spoke over him !

Would you (OP) prefer a patch member of an outlaw club be the protests spokesman ?

Oh and Steve, would you be putting you hand up ?

**pevs** · 22nd October 2009, 19:08

Well done Les, good job and thank you.

**Flip** · 22nd October 2009, 19:08

[QUOTE=mdooher;1129474413]

Originally Posted by Flip

Les did a brillant job. He looked like my dad the average working man, which is a very strong place to be when taking on ACC and did not look like some prick in a suit.
QUOTE]

Dead right, we don't need some super smooth dude. We wan't joe public to feel for the underdog

I don't think it could have gone any better.

**pzkpfw** · 22nd October 2009, 19:10

Just watched it on TVNZ on demand or whatever it's called. (It froze before the very end but saw most of it.)

He did a fantastic job, and I now feel less dirty for the red I gave the O.P. (might be the first I've ever given out).

A good ordinary Kiwi bloke, not a bikie, just a bike rider, gave the suit from Wellington a good hiding.

Katman the negative can go screw himself; I think the average New Zealander will get from that interview exactly what we need them to.

Wonderful job.

**Katman** · 22nd October 2009, 19:11

Originally Posted by sinfull

Oh and Steve, would you be putting you hand up ?

I'm not suggesting I'd do any better job Bill.

I'm convinced that someone out there that rides a motorcycle would though.

We are talking about a fight for our lives here. It deserves looking for the best person for the job.

**NighthawkNZ:Me** · 22nd October 2009, 19:14

Originally Posted by mynameis

Above can be done via submissions.

which don't get read and get put in to a pile or spam box... You can get a lot across in 15 minutes of un-interupted talk

**fireliv** · 22nd October 2009, 19:14

Originally Posted by Katman

That doesn't make him the best man for the job.

Believe me, we are in a position where we need the best person we can find.

Normally I dont mind what you say even agreeing with some of it but you just pissed me off.

Now I see you are an utter pillock. You get on some fucking high horse like you know what you are on about but really you are some idiot that hides behind a computer bitching on like you are higher than god. I never actually see you trying to publicise this or any pother cause. All you do is bitch about bikers on this site, nor have I seen you on TV, radio etc doing anything to help rally people etc so why dont your just pack up and shift your loser fucking whinging else where.

Well done Ixon, you did a fantastic job! Thanks for standing up for me, I couldn't be more greatful!

**Little Smurf** · 22nd October 2009, 19:14

I think he did a fantastic job, yes he was nervous but fark me it can't be easy when the entire nation is watching you!!!! I say a job well done ...... thank you

**FJRider** · 22nd October 2009, 19:15

Originally Posted by Katman

I also don't think he's doing us any favours.

Bronz need to find a figurehead more comfortable with the role.

He's doing it ... no queue of those claiming to be able to do it better....

If you think you can ... go for it. I enjoy a good laugh ...

**Kiwi Graham:Me** · 22nd October 2009, 19:15

Originally Posted by Katman

Wake up Brett, he looks impressive to you because you are a motorcyclist.

The whole idea of TV coverage is not to impress other motorcyclists - it is to get the general public on our side. To do so we need someone who comes across as convincing and compelling to non-motorcyclists.

I've never met Les but I'd be pleased too, You on the other hand

Is it your life's mission to bag all that try to improve the lot of the motorcyclist?