Fuel tax to replace ACC on regos?

[Mystic13]

The current fuel tax is 9.9 cents. ACC have asked if this should be raised to 12.87 cents. ACC want motorcycles charged at a premium above cars regardless.

If we increase to the new fuel levy rate ACC propose that the new car rego ACC fee drop from $272.72 to $237.37 or 13%.

For the over 600cc motorcycle they propose a drop from $745.77 to $735.16 or 1.4%.

When you read the two documents ACC have produced it makes stark reading. They are proposing that Road registered motorcyles pay for all motorcycle injuries and that further based on this that a significant premium be charged to this category.

Any increase in fuel levy would not reduce licence fees proportionally but reduce licence fees on the basis of what ACC earn receive from each category. ACC are determined that Motorcycles be singled out and punished.

Clearly the head of ACC hates motorcycles and wants them gone from his corner of the world.

[FROSTY:Me]

Jim I don't claim to be the cleverest guy around the blocks but to me increasing fuel tax will have an immediate INCREASE in the take from ACC.
It will become USER pays.
But what I also propose is that Diesel price at pump increase and RUC be scrapped.
RUC has become a joke anyway.
This will mean that EVERY fuel user pays and the motorised fuel users who don't contribute to ACC will do so.
This will be simplicity to administer.
THEN if the gubbbinment feels they should those industries useing fuel in their industry can claim back a relivant percentage of the ACC money in their tax.

[Dodger]

forget a petrol tax,
just add a few % to GST, that way EVERYONE is paying it.

[Coldrider]

forget a petrol tax,
just add a few % to GST, that way EVERYONE is paying it.

Taxation committee looking at GST at 15% anyway, as tax grab, nothing to do with ACC.

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

Taxation committee looking at GST at 15% anyway, as tax grab, nothing to do with ACC.

earn less pay more get less

[kwaka_crasher]

The point being that Boaties... don't pay ACC yet "use" acc regularly.

Hey, fuck off! We already pay an ACC levy on the fuel and a power boat uses considerably more fuel to travel short distances than any other vehicle. And what about yachties? They're the fuckers actually getting themselves injured.

...put the price of fuel up 11.5c then add the extra GST on top fuel becomes expensive again...

Yeah, well there shouldn't fucking well be GST on levies (taxes) in the first place.

[Jizah]

If they did push the price of fuel up by adding the ACC levy to it, it may force people to use their vehicles less and in turn the number of claims may drop.

Realistically though, I imagine nobody would be changing their driving habits, they'd all just be complaining more.

[FROSTY:Me]

If they did push the price of fuel up by adding the ACC levy to it, it may force people to use their vehicles less and in turn the number of claims may drop.

Realistically though, I imagine nobody would be changing their driving habits, they'd all just be complaining more.

nahh what it would mean is all those people NOT registering vehicles would get picked up so the ACC take would be greater

[JimO]

i havnt checked if someone has already raised this but surly a levy on fuel would cover off road bikes/quads, boats jetskis etc people who dont rego their pos cars etc instead of targeting specific users and probably raise more $$$

[vifferman]

Don't be so fkn sensible! This has got nothing to do with fairness and like that there!

[sleemanj]

i havnt checked if someone has already raised this but surly a levy on fuel would cover off road bikes/quads, boats jetskis etc people who dont rego their pos cars etc instead of targeting specific users and probably raise more $$$

But then the couldn't target motorcyclists and price them off the road. Which is after all, the desire of ACC.