Thanks for saving my life.

[TuonoTom]

*waits for Katman to do his thing

[sleemanj]

Training is available and local ! : Mainland driving school has

Yes, I see this in my near future, one of those round tuit things which is going to get crossed off the list sooner than later.

[martybabe]

Good post mate. You know you messed up, your not blaming any one but yourself and your gonna get yourself some training.

We all make mistakes, you've clearly learned from yours and you're gonna do your best to make sure the same thing doesn't happen again rather than spit the dummy and give up biking.

An admirable attitude, don't be so hard on yourself.

[Maki]

Have a look at this thread, Slee. You might find something useful.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...d.php?t=110902

Good on you for your honest post.

[Katman]

*waits for Katman to do his thing

How about instead I just tell you to go fuck yourself?

[Laxi]

How about instead I just tell you to go fuck yourself?

hell not SMC today? shit somthing original (well for you anyway)

[Mudflaps]

I also hadn't ridden bikes for roughly ten years until just recently when I started racing a bucket racer. I learnt so much in 5 races on a 100 cc bike that it made my past riding experience look like a pittance! I have fallen off on the track (4 times in fact) But are learning why and how, which has to help me when I'm on the road next. I've also found it teaches you to act in a better manner when put into a difficult situation. All good things.

Hope you heal up soon. Good luck, and maybe find a bucket racer!! Great fun and great learning tool.

[ital916]

uh, like what did you do to drop it? Once you get that figured out, just stop doing it.

Bikes dont just leap out from under you when you get a fright.

Steve

I think he hit a cats eye.

[ital916]

*waits for Katman to do his thing

He seems to be the only one that tells it like it is anymore.

Good on ya mate for being honest and realising a fuck up, you just gotta figure out what went wrong and fix it. Oh and for a bit of clarification can you clear up what the cyclist was doing? Coming towards you or you just came accross a cyclist heading in the same direction as you.

[Laxi]

He seems to be the only one that tells it like it is anymore.

Good on ya mate for being honest and realising a fuck up, you just gotta figure out what went wrong and fix it. Oh and for a bit of clarification can you clear up what the cyclist was doing? Coming towards you or you just came accross a cyclist heading in the same direction as you.

he appeared around the bend coming the opposite direction

[ital916]

Im just trying to make a mental image of this. So this dude was in the middle of the road. Coming towards you in your lane, whilst you were tightening your line, whilst not cranked over and not going fast and then you crashed.

Im not trying to be a dick, Im just trying to understand what the hell was going on lol.

How bout you walk us through it in fine detail. Vent some more.

[gammaguy]

if you really are that bad,quit now while you are still alive.

Im not sure if you can blog from the afterlife.Care to find out?

[Laxi]

if you really are that bad,quit now while you are still alive.

Im not sure if you can blog from the afterlife.Care to find out?

what a fucked up response! what? you never dropped your bike?

[sleemanj]

How bout you walk us through it in fine detail. Vent some more.

Like I said, it was all on me.

Cyclist bore no fault, he was on his side of the road as I recall. I was not over the line at the time I saw the cyclist (I think), but if he hadn't been there I suspect would have run wide and been close to collecting him.

What I'm saying is, I KNOW there was a lot more lean that the bike could give, and tighten that corner immeasurably, if I'd told it to do it. In short. I suck.

1. I misread the corner,
2. I carried too much speed,
3. I didn't wash off enough going in,
4. I didn't see the guy until far too late in the process,
5. I was probably in too high a gear below the bike's power band (but don't recall),
6. My body positioning almost certainly sucked,
7. When confronted with the conditions (cyclist coming, little gravely mid corner near the center) I did not take effective action (should have counter steered harder to tighten the line),
8. I suspect I allowed my reflexes to override my knowledge (brake reflex vs counter steer knowledge) although that's a bit hazy I certainly can't discount it
9. I suspect there could have been some target fixation going on, again, reflex vs. knowledge

All the above (and probably more) combined to produce the resultant accident, and they can all be directly attribute to me being a bad 32 year old rider who has lost his 22 year old's mojo if he ever had it.

Luckily in this case the loss of mojo has not resulted in the loss of body parts and hopefully this enlightening experience and some retraining will result in less frequent lie downs in future.

NB: It was the corner in the map below, I was coming from Avonhead Road so a left hander for me, I don't know what speed I was doing, couldn't even hazard a guess, but I didn't slide more than probably 3 or 4 meters, maybe less, so can't have been much, lost it just around the apex.


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[ital916]

Like I said, it was all on me.

Cyclist bore no fault, he was on his side of the road as I recall. I was not over the line at the time I saw the cyclist (I think), but if he hadn't been there I suspect would have run wide and been close to collecting him.

What I'm saying is, I KNOW there was a lot more lean that the bike could give, and tighten that corner immeasurably, if I'd told it to do it. In short. I suck.

1. I misread the corner,
2. I carried too much speed,
3. I didn't wash off enough going in,
4. I didn't see the guy until far too late in the process,
5. I was probably in too high a gear below the bike's power band (but don't recall),
6. My body positioning almost certainly sucked,
7. When confronted with the conditions (cyclist coming, little gravely mid corner near the center) I did not take effective action (should have counter steered harder to tighten the line),
8. I suspect I allowed my reflexes to override my knowledge (brake reflex vs counter steer knowledge) although that's a bit hazy I certainly can't discount it
9. I suspect there could have been some target fixation going on, again, reflex vs. knowledge

All the above (and probably more) combined to produce the resultant accident, and they can all be directly attribute to me being a bad 32 year old rider who has lost his 22 year old's mojo if he ever had it.

Luckily in this case the loss of mojo has not resulted in the loss of body parts and hopefully this enlightening experience and some retraining will result in less frequent lie downs in future.

NB: It was the corner in the map below, I was coming from Avonhead Road so a left hander for me, I don't know what speed I was doing, couldn't even hazard a guess, but I didn't slide more than probably 3 or 4 meters, maybe less, so can't have been much, lost it just around the apex.

I'll rock my 2c worth, you dont have to listen if you dont want to.

It seems like you have managed to determine everything which you did wrong to lead up to the accident, which is good. I wouldnt beat yourself up too much dude, you fucked up, now it's time to own that mistake and never do it again.

It is good you got back on the bike, and though it gets spouted over and over again, I'm going to say it again, "slow in fast out" mate. There is no fault in being over cautious on a corner when road riding. There are a multitude of factors that can make your bike hit trouble.

Looking from google maps, it seems you should be able to see round that enitre corner. It is a sharp looking one but seems to have ace line of sight, you are quite possibly not looking far enough ahead.

Remember, know whats happening 2 seconds in front of you, prepare for whata going to happen 4 seconds in front of you and scan for whats 6-12 seconds ahead of you on the horizon, just so you are not caught out. Its difficult to to do, and I even suck at it but you will find you get less suprised by stuff and are more prepared.

You dont have to kiss the mirrors whilst road riding in my opinion, or shift your body round (the it is fun to do so sometimes), and trust your tires (tis why you need good ones).

I ride at 5/10-6/10ths and have fun, give it a go. You will find corners less adrenaline pumping but your riding is smoother and see more/miss less.