Harawira hates white people...

**duckonin** · 6th November 2009, 19:27

Originally Posted by XRVrider

Why the hell is there even a Maori Party at all. That is racist towards others who arent Maori. Remember that Turia once said that Christianity introduced child abuse to the Maori household. Hmm the Kahui twins come to mind. This country is full of reverse racism but we are so bloody politically correct we dont do anything, is fucked up. If Europeans diudnt turn up the general Maori would still be skinny, hunting down KFC uses fuck all energy.

Skinny !! Yep full of fucken worms....

**XRVrider** · 6th November 2009, 19:28

Originally Posted by wbks

Yea, and making racist generalizations don't help any cause except racism, that's what I was saying.

Fair enough, I been called way worse, but you are right.

**wbks** · 6th November 2009, 19:34

Originally Posted by Hans

It may be, that you don't like the form of that post. But pray tell, which part of it is factually incorrect? Or is it that the facts are more irritating than the form? Which of course brings accusations of racism.

Someone saying that the proportion of Maori that eat fast food on a regular basis is more than the proportion of Caucasoids that do the same might be a statistical observation, but I think it's pretty obvious when someone (not just XRV, pretty much a good portion of people in NZ) make random statements about it in usually a more informal way, it is usually intended as racism.

Originally Posted by XRVrider

Fair enough, I been called way worse, but you are right.

Who cares, people can talk about how righteous and non racist they are, but it's been proven again and again that everyone is racist to some extent

**Hinny** · 6th November 2009, 19:37

Originally Posted by Winston001

...the Maori Party .... They have earned a lot of respect ....

Isn't it a KB convention to write p/t when making statements like this?

or Tui moment.

**Hans** · 6th November 2009, 19:40

Originally Posted by wbks

Who cares, people can talk about how righteous and non racist they are, but it's been proven again and again that everyone is racist to some extent

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism

That is a definition of racism. I think you may be confusing "racism" with "racial hatred" and a host of other things. I may yet expand my personal definition of racism to include "Much overused word, whose primary purpose is silencing dissent".

Also, I will freely admit to hate. I hate certain cultures with a passion. That however is not prejudice, because I only came to hate those certain cultures after experiencing them first hand.

**XRVrider** · 6th November 2009, 19:42

Originally Posted by wbks

Someone saying that the proportion of Maori that eat fast food on a regular basis is more than the proportion of Caucasoids that do the same might be a statistical observation, but I think it's pretty obvious when someone (not just XRV, pretty much a good portion of people in NZ) make random statements about it in usually a more informal way, it is usually intended as racism.

Who cares, people can talk about how righteous and non racist they are, but it's been proven again and again that everyone is racist to some extent

KFC comments are not as bad as what Hone said, thats what started this, but they arent right, but it goes both ways as you said.

This country has a long way to go to sort its issues between races, aint much being done, so it gets worse. We are only a little country with a great chance to do something about it. I hope we turn it around but fear the Government wont take a punt and try starting a few things... they should try though.

**mashman** · 6th November 2009, 19:48

I've been on the end of this shit before... an englishman in deepest darkest Scotland. Normal day to day life is grand, but when you really push someones buttons someone you know, or at least someone you've seen around the village and have spoken to, spits the dummy and starts screaming at the village folk to hang the english guy watchin the england v scotland game (400 years later... how old is NZ)... Believe the hype and it'll stay around forever! People make bad choices in what to believe sometimes

**wbks** · 6th November 2009, 20:13

Originally Posted by Hans

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism

That is a definition of racism. I think you may be confusing "racism" with "racial hatred" and a host of other things. I may yet expand my personal definition of racism to include "Much overused word, whose primary purpose is silencing dissent".

Also, I will freely admit to hate. I hate certain cultures with a passion. That however is not prejudice, because I only came to hate those certain cultures after experiencing them first hand.

I'm pretty sure it's discrimination based on race

**wbks** · 6th November 2009, 20:17

Originally Posted by mashman

I've been on the end of this shit before... an englishman in deepest darkest Scotland. Normal day to day life is grand, but when you really push someones buttons someone you know, or at least someone you've seen around the village and have spoken to, spits the dummy and starts screaming at the village folk to hang the english guy watchin the england v scotland game (400 years later... how old is NZ)... Believe the hype and it'll stay around forever! People make bad choices in what to believe sometimes

These cases might be a bit more similar when every scottish man has more English blood than they have scottish, but the government keeps passively asserting that the english looking people aren't as entitled because they don't have 1/34th scottish ancestry like the others. Probably sounds like I'm judging your situation and I've never even been to the UK, but you see what I'm saying?

**Insanity_rules** · 6th November 2009, 20:19

Originally Posted by wbks

I'm pretty sure it's discrimination based on race

I'm an equal opportunity biggot. I hate everyone based on humanity.

**Hans** · 6th November 2009, 20:22

Originally Posted by wbks

These cases might be a bit more similar when every scottish man has more English blood than they have scottish, but the government keeps passively asserting that the english looking people aren't as entitled because they don't have 1/34th scottish ancestry like the others. Probably sounds like I'm judging your situation and I've never even been to the UK, but you see what I'm saying?

I'm not English either, but I think you have a good point. There are no "Maori" in New Zealand. There are, however, people with mixed heritage, who choose to see themselves as Maori, conveniently forgetting their "other" ancestry. Why they'd choose to do such a thing...

**scumdog** · 6th November 2009, 20:23

Originally Posted by Hans

I'm not English either, but I think you have a good point. There are no "Maori" in New Zealand. There are, however, people with mixed heritage, who choose to see themselves as Maori, conveniently forgetting their "other" ancestry. Why they'd choose to do such a thing...

Cos you can gain a shit-load of advantages (mainly financial) by doing so...