Sting gone out of MotoGP '09?

[johan]

What is a grid strategy, anyway?

I found this explanation on Ducati's grid strategy... I don't know if it's accurate (dodgy translation?)



""Ducati has a special grid strategy, a procedure that allows their riders to complete the race without fear of running out of fuel.

The goal is warm the tires as soon as possible and avoid an excessive fuel consumption. The rider heads out on the spare bike and brings the tires up to temperature as soon as possible with no worry about fuel, because the bike he’s using will not be used in the race.

Instead of heading to the grid, the Ducati rider heads back to the pitlane and changes to his race bike and leaves the lane and rides back on track at a very low speed to minimize fuel consumption. Once on the grid the tires are replaced with those that have been brought up to the right temperature on the spare bike and kept up with tire warmers.

Unfortunately for Casey Stoner, the usual strategy didn’t work today at Valencia, because the Aussie was so psyched up, that he got on his race bike instead of his spare, didn’t return to the pitlane and his tires were simply cold.

Sometimes explanations are much more complicated than simply admitting we fucked up.""

http://www.gpone.com/news/News.asp?NNews=5867

[White trash]

I found this explanation on Ducati's grid strategy... I don't know if it's accurate (dodgy translation?)



""Ducati has a special grid strategy, a procedure that allows their riders to complete the race without fear of running out of fuel.

The goal is warm the tires as soon as possible and avoid an excessive fuel consumption. The rider heads out on the spare bike and brings the tires up to temperature as soon as possible with no worry about fuel, because the bike he’s using will not be used in the race.

Instead of heading to the grid, the Ducati rider heads back to the pitlane and changes to his race bike and leaves the lane and rides back on track at a very low speed to minimize fuel consumption. Once on the grid the tires are replaced with those that have been brought up to the right temperature on the spare bike and kept up with tire warmers.

Unfortunately for Casey Stoner, the usual strategy didn’t work today at Valencia, because the Aussie was so psyched up, that he got on his race bike instead of his spare, didn’t return to the pitlane and his tires were simply cold.

Sometimes explanations are much more complicated than simply admitting we fucked up.""

http://www.gpone.com/news/News.asp?NNews=5867

WTF???

Unsure how they work out that they can get back into the pits, do a real slow lap and still be on the grid before the lights go out. Lol.

What a crock

[Warr]

I found this explanation on Ducati's grid strategy... I don't know if it's accurate (dodgy translation?)
............
http://www.gpone.com/news/News.asp?NNews=5867

Here is the whole page translated Unfortunately Stoner

It sure produced a different race !
u tube footage not in english but the visuals say it all

[Badjelly]

Here is the whole page translated Unfortunately Stoner

Loosely translated

...Why hasn't Casey used the strategy, also previewed? And simple, because … she is Casey, it is formidable but he is like the Devil of the Tasmania of the comic strips, when it is loaded and ready to the shot, does not feel more nobody!...

[Warr]

Loosely translated

… she is Casey

You dont think that relating to Careys lack of facial hair ?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Thank fook for that. I couldn't take any more.

Still a monster performance from Spies though after 2.5hrs on the bike. I can imagine him being on the podium next year. Once he got a sniff of Dovi's group it was like watching the Terminator.

Still if I picture Stoner and Rossi at Phillip Island, Godlike and really on it, I can't for the life of me see him being within pissing distance.

What did you think of Stoner's explanation..."was the grid stategy wot dun it"?

hahaha...Stoner had a brain fade I'd say. Aye...Spies did good...but obviously you and I will never agree on how he's gonna go. The reason why I'm such a fan of the boy is that I was at Laguna Seca in '07' when he and Mladin went toe to toe and flat out smoked everyone else so badly...it was embarrassing for them. Spies was/is just like Mladin...stretching the fuckout of the throttle cable for 20 odd laps..all over the bike and charging like there's no tomorrow.

It's the same reason I'm such a fan of Stoners. To me...he's the hardest charger out there. To see him on a flying lap is unreal. This year at Phillip Island in the wet qualifying session...I think he was clocked at 320 clicks down the main chute...and there was standing water on the track not just dampness. Sick. A freak. Mind you...Mr Rossi is also a freak...but will he beat Ago's all time race win record before he calls it quits?

[discotex]

Top three:
Stoner
Rossi
Lorenzo

Spies will make a top 10 finish no worries. Top 5 well possible from what I've seen this year.

Ok so I picked the wrong crasher but other than that I'd say I nailed that prediction (figured it'd be Pedrosa that crashed because he hasn't for a few races now lol).

[gav]

Wonder how fast Stoner would be on that M1? Or even on a Honda maybe? He was pretty quick as a rookie on a customer spec bike with customer Michelins, I'd imagine that HRC must be keeping a watching brief at the goings on at Ducati. Stoner on Bridgestones on the #1 HRC bike would be a pretty tough combo. Pedrosa and Dovi are both only on one year contracts. 2011 could be very interesting!!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Wonder how fast Stoner would be on that M1? Or even on a Honda maybe? He was pretty quick as a rookie on a customer spec bike with customer Michelins, I'd imagine that HRC must be keeping a watching brief at the goings on at Ducati. Stoner on Bridgestones on the #1 HRC bike would be a pretty tough combo. Pedrosa and Dovi are both only on one year contracts. 2011 could be very interesting!!

I'm with you there Gav. He was carving it up on a satelite Honda in his first year better than any of these other chappies have since. I bet he'll be offered a shitload by the factories come 2011.

[carbonhed]

hahaha...Stoner had a brain fade I'd say. Aye...Spies did good...but obviously you and I will never agree on how he's gonna go. The reason why I'm such a fan of the boy is that I was at Laguna Seca in '07' when he and Mladin went toe to toe and flat out smoked everyone else so badly...it was embarrassing for them. Spies was/is just like Mladin...stretching the fuckout of the throttle cable for 20 odd laps..all over the bike and charging like there's no tomorrow.

It's the same reason I'm such a fan of Stoners. To me...he's the hardest charger out there. To see him on a flying lap is unreal. This year at Phillip Island in the wet qualifying session...I think he was clocked at 320 clicks down the main chute...and there was standing water on the track not just dampness. Sick. A freak. Mind you...Mr Rossi is also a freak...but will he beat Ago's all time race win record before he calls it quits?

Did Spies lose a single dogfight in WSBK when the R1 was healthy? Must have been good training with Mladin. He doesn't seem to bother with that defensive lines baloney, just Warp factor 9 and "come and have a go if you think you're hard enough". Rossi seems to have a similar approach.

I don't think Rossi will beat Ago's record. There's going to be trouble at Yamaha next year. Would you let Lorenzo go when Rossi's in the twilight of his career? There's too many good young guys hammering at the walls. If Spies gets in the mix, maybe one of the 250 GP guys hits the ground running, it's just getting harder and harder.

Has Pedrosa ever won a race that wasn't as boring as fuck to watch? Get holeshot, hope some bastard like Elias balks the chasers, get 1.5 sec gap over first two laps, settle into rhythm, ride to finish. Drives me mental. They should bring out the safety car five laps in. He'd never win another race

Can't imagine Ducati letting Stoner go... at any price. Nobody else has even looked like setting the world on fire with that bike. Can't imagine Rossi going there for exactly the same reason. Stoner on the other hand could probably podium anything. Shame he's such a fucking plank. The thought of having to listen to his drivel endlessly when Rossi retires is unbearable. Still there's always WSBK, should be great next year, can't wait.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Can't imagine Ducati letting Stoner go... at any price. Nobody else has even looked like setting the world on fire with that bike. Can't imagine Rossi going there for exactly the same reason. Stoner on the other hand could probably podium anything. Shame he's such a fucking plank. The thought of having to listen to his drivel endlessly when Rossi retires is unbearable. Still there's always WSBK, should be great next year, can't wait.

I guess it's more if Stoner wants to go rather than Ducati keeping him.

For Rossi to sign with Ducati...it could wipe mud all over a fantastic and amazing career if he (like all the others) didn't gell with it.

If Aoyama rides the RCV like he rode his RS 250 I'd say he'll go great guns.

Fuzzy wuzzy will be like Lorenzo and go fast as fuck and crash a lot.

All in all...a lot to look forward to.

Superbikes? The only thing that made me watch them this years was Spies. Interesting that Mladin said right from the start that Spies would win the title with two rounds spare. He would've if not for some dnf's that were no fault of his.

To me...shows us that if that's what Mladin had wanted to do...he could've kicked arse big time.

[carbonhed]

Superbikes? The only thing that made me watch them this years was Spies. Interesting that Mladin said right from the start that Spies would win the title with two rounds spare. He would've if not for some dnf's that were no fault of his.

To me...shows us that if that's what Mladin had wanted to do...he could've kicked arse big time.

Nah. If Haga hadn't hid that fucking bird and crashed. Ridden injured and crashed. Ridden even injurder and crashed again. Spies wouldn't have won fuck all.

Weird season though. No Honda till switch to Ohlins. No Suzuki full stop. Corser on BMW... zero impact. Biaggi not making the most of the Aprilia. I think it'll be better next year. Then there's Moto 2.

Actually I got the most pleasure out of the 600's WSS this year. Best noise and closest racing. Crutchdog rules.

[gav]

That to me, was the biggest shame that Mat Mladin didnt pack up his US Yoshi Suzuki team and go and shake up WSBK, about 3 years ago (at least). It always suprised me that someone like Mladin who appears so focused and driven, never had the urge to go back to Europe. He can't have been happy with the way he was treated in his 500GP career, signs a 3 year contract with the understanding that the first year was a learning year and then gets the boot at the end of the first season.

Another shame is we won't see another epic 250 race!
Moto2 has a lot to live up to after that season and final race.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Nah. If Haga hadn't hid that fucking bird and crashed. Ridden injured and crashed. Ridden even injurder and crashed again. Spies wouldn't have won fuck all.

Weird season though. No Honda till switch to Ohlins. No Suzuki full stop. Corser on BMW... zero impact. Biaggi not making the most of the Aprilia. I think it'll be better next year. Then there's Moto 2.

Actually I got the most pleasure out of the 600's WSS this year. Best noise and closest racing. Crutchdog rules.

Aye...poor old Nori. I really hope he wins the title next year!

Moto 2? Me...I love the 250 two smokers and will miss them.

[XRVrider]

Rossi

Lorenzo

Pedrosa

Stoner falls off battling with Rossi.

That closest pick then? Stoner did fall, just earlier than hoped Just Pedrosa in the wrong spot... we shouldve expected he had it in em to win, bit hard to predict that though. Spies will come on good, but a long road to the very top, jeez they are fecking good huh.