After BIKEOI by Car?

[Tink]

ha ha ha... nice!!! and not a kick in the ass off being true... can anyone say carbon emissions tax!!!

I think something that has been very underused, thus far, is taking a leaf out of the governments books... I mean, there's plenty of twisted fuckers on here that could quite happily and easily play spin doctor so that our agenda looks better than theres!!!

I think I get what your saying... but not quite sure... ?

[mashman]

me Id suggest another line-- A full on rugby scrum
With every player wearing a shirt with a big target on it
The sighn simply saying -- ACC---ARE THEY NEXT???

VERY Nice!!! even better if it could be the All Blacks and The All White(motherfu***r)s... It's potentially going to affect everyone, why not try to pull in some of the higher profiled people to fight the case!

[MSTRS:Me]

I agree. Crashing too much is the image we want people to remember less. Whilst there are plenty of bike crashes caused by cars we don't want to parrot that line too much given the amount we crash without cars.

I certainly agree with involving some cars in it as well as bikes in order to highlight that most bikers are already paying ACC for more than one vehicle.

Just on that point...does anyone know what the numbers are for car crashes, single or multiple? We have an approx 50% each way. How similar (or not) are the car stats?

[mashman]

Without access to the individual crash reports i wouldn't believe any figures... I think that's what half of this ACC battle is about, plain simple and yet wholly incorrect BOMDAS...

[FROSTY:Me]

VERY Nice!!! even better if it could be the All Blacks and The All White(motherfu***r)s... It's potentially going to affect everyone, why not try to pull in some of the higher profiled people to fight the case!

Because ol son they are covered by private health insurance --which would play right into ACC's hands
Nahh its the grassroots cauliflower eared guys we wanna get to

[mashman]

Because ol son they are covered by private health insurance --which would play right into ACC's hands
Nahh its the grassroots cauliflower eared guys we wanna get to

Cheers young dad... so am I... what's there excuse again and i've only been here 3 years???