Is ACC breaching a human rights?

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

It may be my legal right and my choice to ride a motorcycle, but if i can't afford it because of levy hikes, it's not affecting my freedom to choose, but moreover my financial situation stopping me from having what i want. I understand what you're saying, i just don't think the human rights commission will buy that as an excuse.

but to be purposly taxed off when you could afford it before, it is effecting your freedom of choice. They may not buy it but hey...

[mashman]

but to be purposly taxed off when you could afford it before, it is effecting your freedom of choice. They may not buy it but hey...

ahhh, but legally taxed off? if you can't afford to ride your bike, you either get another job, get a bank loan, or become a crim to raise the money required to ride your bike! Nothing illegal about it, you just can't afford it... Someone leveled at me a few weeks ago "Sure... don't buy something you can't afford to own."... PAH!!! and that's from a biker off this site... I'm guessing they won't buy it if bikers have this attitude!

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

ahhh, but legally taxed off? if you can't afford to ride your bike, you either get another job, get a bank loan,!

so you are say that only the rich can ride a bike...? Students aren't allowed to use this cheap form of transport due to a political view of the government only which is their political opinion and mine is against it... then bringing in the second side "employment status" not all jobs out there are high paying and can afford not every one can get these high paying jobs... we all know this...

I maybe legally tax off in the view of the government, but it still will take the freedom of chooce of many


at the end of the day I don't care if the human rights commision get involved or not... but at present I have the freedom of choice to choice to ride a bike if the levies come in I may not...

[mashman]

so you are say that only the rich can ride a bike...? Students aren't allowed to use this cheap form of transport due to a political view of the government only which is their political opinion and mine is against it... then bringing in the second side "employment status" not all jobs out there are high paying and can afford not every one can get these high paying jobs... we all know this...

I'm not saying only the rich can ride a bike, but that's the way it could turn out if these hikes go through... and no commission anywhere will give a rats because i won't have a legal argument to present...

I do agree with you in regards to freedom of choice, but what i'm saying is that you generally need money to make the choice a reality... and that's where some people may well be forced off the roads, even if your levy only rises by as little as 10%... it won't be your choice anymore, it will be a financial reality.

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

I do agree with you in regards to freedom of choice, but what i'm saying is that you generally need money to make the choice a reality... and that's where some people may well be forced off the roads, even if your levy only rises by as little as 10%... it won't be your choice anymore, it will be a financial reality.

So it is okay to tax the poorer off the road...?

the point of it all is there no need to make the levy increase at all... and its a step to privatise, Nationals political view is to privatise ACC which goes against what ACC stands for, being a community fund... if its in a private hands how can it be a community fund?.. private company is only after profit ACC isn't about profit. It does mean many will not be able to afford decent accident cover under standard insurance...

While I agree with you at the end of the day the commission ain't going to care. but hey...it may convert a few more for actual people supporting our cause...

[kevie]

Good on you.

Can't see it running far because the levy is on motorcycles, not people.

Recieved a letter from HRC today in response to my email to them a couple weeks back:

Quote: I write in response to your email to the Human Rights Commission asking us to intervene on behalf of motorcyclists in relation to the proposed ACC levies. You say that there is a perception that the intentention to levy motorcyclists is picking on a minority group.

The appropriate way to deal with a law change such as this is to make a submission to the relevant select committee. Unfortunately if you have not already done so the time for making submissions on the proposed Amendment will have closed by the time you receive this.
The Commission has made a submission opposing many of the changes suggested. Altho this did not specifically refer to motorcyclists as a group we did argue for a more equitable system which allowed for universal cover in the event of an accident. The Commission submission will be available on its website http://www.hrc.co.nz shortly.
Yours sincerely
Sylvia Bell
PRINCIPAL LEGAL & POLICY ANALYST

[Winston001]

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The Commission has made a submission opposing many of the changes suggested. Altho this did not specifically refer to motorcyclists as a group we did argue for a more equitable system which allowed for universal cover in the event of an accident. The Commission submission will be available on its website http://www.hrc.co.nz shortly.
Yours sincerely
Sylvia Bell
PRINCIPAL LEGAL & POLICY ANALYST

Good on you, well done.