Bikeoi! 2010

**Ixion** · 23rd November 2009, 10:56

Well, the BIKEOI! was a great success.

But don't let's kid ourselves that we'll get what we want this time round. A token reduction this year, and ACC will come back for another attack next year.

So, do we need, should we have another BIKEOI! next year ? (and if we do, WHEN next year)

Reasons to hold one ?

Publicity
Keep us in front of the pollies
It was cool (and next one could be better, more time to organise)
Announcing BIKEOI! 2010 sends a message to ACC government and press that we are in for the long haul. We're not going to forget about it and go away

Reasons against ?

2009 went without a hitch. No aggro, no bins. But frankly that may have been as much luck as anything. Next time we might not be so lucky
We might not get so many people for a repeat. Which would encourage the enemy. On the other hand, we could probably hold 2010 on a weekend, which should swell numbers
It's a hellish big ask on the organisers
We might not get so much cooperation from police etc for a rerun

Thoughts.

Yeah I know, it's a long time ahead. But it takes a long time to organise these things, the stress on people getting 2009 done in a couple of weeks was colossal.

**Bald Eagle** · 23rd November 2009, 11:04

Originally Posted by Ixion

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So, do we need, should we have another BIKEOI! next year ? (and if we do, WHEN next year)

Reasons to hold one ?

Publicity
Keep us in front of the pollies
It was cool (and next one could be better, more time to organise)
Announcing BIKEOI! 2010 sends a message to ACC government and press that we are in for the long haul. We're not going to forget about it and go away

Reasons against ?

2009 went without a hitch. No aggro, no bins. But frankly that may have been as much luck as anything. Next time we might not be so lucky
We might not get so many people for a repeat. Which would encourage the enemy. On the other hand, we could probably hold 2010 on a weekend, which should swell numbers
It's a hellish big ask on the organisers
We might not get so much cooperation from police etc for a rerun

Thoughts.

Yeah I know, it's a long time ahead. But it takes a long time to organise these things, the stress on people getting 2009 done in a couple of weeks was colossal.

I think another bikeoi is an excelllent idea.

I don't think we should call it Bikeoi2010 I think it should be Bikeoi-II.

The sooner the better, I would rather we did not wait for them to 'throw us a bone' and then have to come back again. ( I'm thinking hot irons and striking while the temperature is up here.)

I think we should keep the pressure on and signal Bikeoi-II as an early New Year event.

I'm up for it again.

**scissorhands** · 23rd November 2009, 11:09

I like easter as whole families could get involved, and wider interest from other affected groups. Parliament would be at the beach though.

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**mashman** · 23rd November 2009, 11:13

Reasons to do one! Because the government and "public" never understood what was really at stake. We asked our government to let us find out for ourselves. they said NO! have a lower levy instead!

Reasons Against: Lack of public awareness for the real issue!

Thoughts: Country wide BIKEOI by car, bike, cycle, foot, truck, be great if someone could parachute on to the roof of parliament (give the ass risk assessors a heart attack)

When: After 16 Jan as i'm out of the country til then in a couple of weeks and i really want to go this time (I was on the roof of the Westpac for the last one).

**Hanne** · 23rd November 2009, 11:16

Easter is probably a bit too late though, all decisions will have been made and sealed?

Maybe February just before/ after parliament comes back (that should be round 12th Feb I think could not find exact dates for 2010 ).

Some uni dates for consideration (students there = good?)

Vic uni wellington:
Orientation 22-25 February
Semester Starts 1 March

**Bald Eagle** · 23rd November 2009, 11:18

Originally Posted by Hanne

Easter is probably a bit too late though, all decisions will have been made and sealed?

Maybe February just before/ after parliament comes back (that should be round 12th Feb I think could not find exact dates for 2010 ).

Some uni dates for consideration (students there = good?)

Vic uni wellington:
Orientation 22-25 February
Semester Starts 1 March

14th Feb would be ironic a valentines present for the government

**Bald Eagle** · 23rd November 2009, 11:20

New group started for planning

**short-circuit** · 23rd November 2009, 11:24

When: These Christmas holidays (overnighter- to as long as it takes: take sleeping bags and small tents)

Where: Auckland Harbour Bridge (lanes 1 - 8)

Reasons:
Momentum - needs to happen now

Maximal impact - public need to feel the brunt and realise the seriousness of the issue (in order to pressure Government to reverse policy that is all but set in stone)

Maxium exposure

**Ixion** · 23rd November 2009, 11:24

I don't think we should reckon on BIKEOI!-2 changing any decisions. For that (if it's possible at all) we need that constant pressure between now and late january.

BIKEOI!-2 would be to send the "No - not good enough we're still angry" message.

Need to bear in mind that for riders outside Wellington, there is potentially a need for time off work (maybe less so if it's on a weekend). That could be tricky for many - time off for BIKEOI!-1, time off at Christmas, not going to have much leave left.

Should it be in Wellington? Obviously has to be if we intend to rock up to parliament. But, not much point in doing that if there's no-one else there, which would be the case at the weekend.

So , if we went with a weekend event, a case could be made for it not being in Wellington.

On the other hand, I can't think of any other really logical place.

**Naki Rat** · 23rd November 2009, 11:43

If the government/ACC are proposing to announce their final decision on rego levy rates promptly the substantial rise in those on "Non-petrol goods service vehicles" could well generate a lot of support from owners/operators of much of NZ's commercial vehicle fleet.

Now, if we were to arrive supported by a convoy of trucks and vans....

**scissorhands** · 23rd November 2009, 11:43

Regional bikoi's everywhere could work. Outside all regional National Party HQ? Just BEFORE Xmas on a Friday arvo around drinks time could be just the trick? Could be like a telethon if we had video conferencing on our laptops

If we have other affected groups on board we need a different name?

**MSTRS:Me** · 23rd November 2009, 11:48

I'm thinking the second one must have further reaching ramifications. Imagine 6500 of us travelling at <70kph across all lanes the entire length of the Auckland motorway system (esp. NW and 1).
Parliament were delivered the message. No point going there again...

If we have other affected groups on board we need a different name?

A Vehoi?

**Ixion** · 23rd November 2009, 11:49

What's the maori word for a war party?

Somebody suggested Impi. I like it, but I doubt many people would know what it meant.

Maybe Carver could start the Sacred Band.

EDITY EDIT. Apparently it's hokowhitu-a-tu. Doesn't really roll off the tongue.

**martybabe** · 23rd November 2009, 11:59

Originally Posted by Ixion

2009 went without a hitch. No aggro, no bins. But frankly that may have been as much luck as anything. Next time we might not be so lucky
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Quote:Some interim statistics...
Based on your responses (you were all truthful aye ;-) the average distance travelled to the event was 280km. (using the lower distance of the range in each case with the exception of the 0 to 50km range where I used 10km).

Given there were 5000 bikes at the event this is 1.65 MILLION Km travelled to Wellington without an incident!Quote

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I ripped this from another thread, for me at least it shows that we are not the bunch of suicidal maniacs that some can't wait to portray us as. You and I have been on the road long enough to know that shit can and does happen even to the most careful and law abiding riders, so yes we were lucky but an awful lot of work/patience/tolerance and co-operation went into that figure eh. Well done us I say.

Another one? Pretty much any time anywhere Supreme leader Ixion, I and many others here would follow you to the ends of the Earth in this fight (well the end of the North island anyway).

I was against weekends at first because we would be protesting against an empty building but I think we delivered our message to those that would listen at Bikeoi 1.

Next year, Providing we can get good TV and radio coverage, I don't think we need the deaf and dumb Polies there. Send the message to the nation that we haven't gone away, the issues are still the same and swamp the bloody place with every last bike and biker we can muster. Any speakers that are on our side will turn up anyway and frankly I don't think I could tolerate another bout of some smarmy shirt lifting power crazy pudding face lying to me and about me.

A Sunny Sunday Party with a Serious Message, Sausage sizzle and Placards on the lawn of the beehive, hot bike and onion smell filling the lazy afternoon air and 15,000 chanting Bullshit into the TV1 microphone. Happy days.
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