Vehicles to avoid...

[caseye]

OK I'll accept that you are not stupid and! can read, also that you perhaps do look! for light runners first, but, the majority of posters here have advocated, moving slowly while filtering , getting in front of one vehicle or the other when reaching the front and specifically not moving off too hard or without looking, my concern believe it or not is that with as many high powered machines as your profile says you have you may become innured to the mantra, wait, wait, now and simply twist and go as many do, that one time it'll be your ass in a sling.To simply advocate "planting it" without qualification,such as , Looking for runners, is silly.

[Rhino]

If your in Auckland look out for this wanker with the number plate SKIPRO. Late model Ford Explorer.

Guy took offence to me filtering past him in stationary traffic on Symonds St this arvo. As the traffic started to move he decided to undertake me and push me in to oncoming traffic

This sort of reaction from cagers is happening to me more frequently anyone else had this sort of problem lately?

I had a very similar problem with this tosser in Symonds St about two months ago when he took offence when I indicated and then changed lanes as we approached some road works. I was well in front of him and IN MY WORK XR6 CAGE. The guy obviously has a road rage problem and it does not just apply to bikes.

[Swampdonkey]

I know the guy,good bloke. I bet he was wide eyed and shitting himself in Auckland traffic . I will talk to him tomorrow see what the story is. Now if it was his son driving ,thats a different story he treats rthe road as a race track.
So if ole six fingers from Paihia can calm down a bit ,i will sort it out.

[IdunBrokdItAgin]

Comes back to what I thought initially. The cage driver is interpreting the action of the bike rider as displaying aggression.

In the scenarios listed they all had the rider filtering to the front of the queue.

This is aggressive behavior! You went to the front - not behind, not to the side but to the front.

To put this in context. You are in a car and sitting at traffic lights on the left hand lane waiting for the light to go green. There are two lanes at the lights and both go straight ahead. No traffic behind you and you see another car in your mirror.

Now if that car pulls up behind you you think nothing of it. But if that car pulls into the right lane (next to you at the lights) you think "they obviously want to get in front of me".

Now think about the driver type: boy racers take this as a challenge. arseholes take this as a challenge; most ordinary drivers just think "wanker" and don't take it as a challenge.

By filtering to the front you are throwing down the gauntlet whether you realise it or not. If you are unlucky enough to have an arsehole or boy racer at the front of the lights when you do this, and are slow off the line yourself, then the outcomes you have stated will always happen.

If you do insist on filtering to the front of the light then be prepared to be fast off the line. Also, some people have stated when filtering then you should pull in front of the first vehicle to avoid them cutting you off. This is even more aggressive! This is effectively cutting someone off. If someone did this to you while moving, or cut in front of you in a queue then your back would instantly be up.

It is small wonder that the general public has a dim view of bike riders when the riders themselves do not realise how aggressive their behavior is (whether intentional or not).

[BMWST?]

I'm not slow off the line and I'm not a rocket either.

One thing my dad always said to me many years ago was never treat a traffic light like a drag strip light. This was illustrated to me one day going to school sitting at the old Collision Crossroads in Bombay. Lights went green I waited a second and then started across only to have a fully laden logging truck blow the red light heading south.

Had a similar situation last month at Beach Road turning on to Stanley Street had a green light got to the central island of Stanley Street only to have out of the conrner of my eye a white toyota blow the red light and just miss me.

In both instances if I had used split second timing to take off on the green I wouldn't be here making this post now.

well if you filter to the front and dont want to be competingg for space when lanes merge you gotta think of another way to do it.The cagers dont see you as having a right to be in the lane after you have"pushed in" at the front.You just gotta get out of there.

[Rad37]

That is fookin brill , thats it i have just replaced my road rage with road revenge Kiwi Style lol

[peasea]

That is fookin brill , thats it i have just replaced my road rage with road revenge Kiwi Style lol

Road Revenge; love it.

"You cut me off, you moron"

Headline:

Woman found hung drawn and quartered after court finds in favour of disgruntled biker."

Erm, yup, sounds fair to me.

[newbould]

minor similar happened to me twice recently. I don't usually split - no need down here - but at Anzac av just before 8 the line gets a bit long. Day 1 i split to the front, lights turn, I ease out checking for red runners then off - ute I was sitting next too follows hard on my tail until I split at the next junction. 2 - 3 days later same ute same place this time he really guns it and tries to pull alongside. scorp will have none of that (good on yah scorp) but I did feel pressured ot push into the junction harder than I wanted. So now the plan is to just watch out for this guy - Scaffolding firm truk for anyone using the same route about then - must live down Port way somewhere - and split him very carefully waiting for the old lane closing maneuver.

[Richard Mc F]

I commute daily, most cars move aside, some want to race ( like they have a chance), some people have anger issues and try silly things, we tend to either ignore (or if possible goad) I don't need to be angry to be silly though, was squeezing fat jelly through city traffic when I had to put a foot down ( gap too narrow) the lady next to me moved and ran over my foot, she was horrified! (all my fault I must add) smiled and waved at her, now there was room to proceed.

[EgliHonda]

Funnily enough, it always seem to be the personalised plate drivers who act like cocks, which is bloody stupid given they have an easy plate to remember...

[PuppetMaster]

If you filter to the front, you have an obligation to not hold up the cars at the front of the queue and leave at a great rate of knots when the light is green, if you filter and saunter off, have a cup of tea and chat to the inside of your helmet for 5 minutes when the light turns green and generally piss about, then you deserve to get the scorn of the cage driver, IMO.

The same applies if you have another bike behind you at the front of the queue, take off reasonably quickly so the bike behind you can also get clear of the cages, I dont want to be stuck between 2 vehicles while you fuck around at the front. This one really pisses me off.

[light]

I have been having a lot of people waving and getting me to rev the bike as of late (it has a very loud exhaust) Lots of thumbs up and smiles. Also lots of people moving over for me. It has been a joy to ride as of late.

[The Pastor]

This year its happened to me 3 times. Vehicles are staionary and decide to have a go once traffic moves off. Its definelty not speed related anyone here that knows me knows I'm no hoon and quite the opposite. Seems everytime the drivers are male

now thats a lie, your such a hoon!

[Guided_monkey]

It's a simple concept.

If you filter to the front you have to get away smartly so the cagers can also get moving.

This doesn't mean pulling the front up.... cops take a dim view of this behaviour

Just make sure you clear the traffic so they can move as they wish.

[george formby]

Not sure if this has already been mentioned but I always thought it was illegal to overtake at traffic lights, pedestrian crossings etc. If your alongside, not in front of the car at the head of the queue, your overtaking. I am happy to be corrected on this.