2009 XT TENERE, with pics

[YellowDog]

Great machines
(shame about the appearance)

[NordieBoy]

Apparently the next KTM Adventure multi cylinder is a 1050.

So going by KTM marketing it'll be 800cc?

[dino3310]

with the price of this new Tenere i would think they would have made it lighter

[Woodman]

Would be mega sweet if they did use the TDM motor, and Kawasaki did something using their new Parrallel twin.

Agree entirely, some sort of versys/klr hybrid, but I bet the combination of 2 cheap bikes ends up as a bloody expensive one.

Quite like the tenere but they are too dare and look a wee bit fragile to me.

[Padmei]

... and look a wee bit fragile to me.

I'm not saying anything - it'd be like shooting fish in a barrel

[warewolf]

I just wonder where the 'growing' of the 650/660 dual purpose bike is headed?

Why, "up" of course!

It's not a new idea. Even the much-touted DR650 started as a 600 in basically its current form, so did the KLR, innit? The Tranny went 600-650-700 (and now more??). The Tenere 660 went to the SuperTen at 750, then TDM850, now 900, next stop 1200. Back a few more years and 500 was more common - and that was the big beastie, not a mid-capacity like we think now. Weight has climbed with the cc's, pretty much.

Unfortunately, adventure is a niche within the motorcycle niche. And adventure/trail is the poor cousin to adventure/road, in more ways than one. So in these increasingly competitive times, we are pretty much last in the pecking order, to the point of forgotten.

Interestingly, KTM have just released a 350SX-F (motocrosser, for those not up with the lingo). Ambitious stuff given there's no specific racing class for it, so it will be competing against the 450Fs. That's the only instance of downsizing I can think of.

im surprised they havent made a ADV bike based on the TDM.... fantastic donkey in it

Uh huh - but it is an adv bike, albeit a "soft roader" but so is a BMW GS?

My bet is it will be a 1200cc whale aimed at the high disposable income fancy themselves as world adventurer types on their trip down the cafe, the 'Harley poser' end of the market to capitalise the name and capture some of the GS buying group.

My thoughts exactly - why I believe the 1200 rumours. Happy to be proved wrong, but then again I wouldn't add too many more kg for a 12 over a 9... even the 9 we'll consider over-weight.

I'd have one of those big beasties - KTM twin or Tiger triple or 'strom - but only as a road bike. They make better "real world" bikes (whatever that really is) than anything more focussed, especially in the bumpy isles. Reckon Triumph got it right with 17" sporty sized rubber on the Tigger. Plenty of ppl think like I do; witness the way the BMW GS is the biggest seller in Germany (it was for a long time), with virtually no dirt roads accessible. Lots of ppl I've spoken to with that class of bike freely admit they only do the gentlest of gravel roads, they never intended anything else nor flouted the bike / themselves as capable of more.

Call me cynical but the manufacturers in the ADV niche seem to have taken the same pill as other groups, bigger is better. The next GS is a 1250, apparently the next KTM Adventure multi cylinder is a 1050.

It's just the way of the world. Bigger engines, less peaky, less emissions (probably only at test conditions though, which is enough to influence design).

So going by KTM marketing it'll be 800cc?

Other way, the 1050 would be badged as an 1090.


Food for thought, eh?

[dino3310]

Uh huh - but it is an adv bike, albeit a "soft roader" but so is a BMW GS?

true mate, an adventure/road, i would love to see a more adventure/trail with that twin in it.

[Taz]

Suzuki could have done so much better than the DL650 V-strom IMO. That motor in a bike along the lines of the Terra Mostro would have been great.

[dino3310]

Suzuki could have done so much better than the DL650 V-strom IMO. .

yeah i reckon, they should have put the BIG back into production.

"bring back BIG"

[JATZ]

yeah i reckon, they should have put the BIG back into production.

"bring back BIG"

Yeah na.... holden stuffed it up with the monaro..... BMW with the new mini and prolly some more I can't think of just now.
Best to just leave the Big alone, you can't improve on perfection

[Monstaman]

Interesting takes on what should happen.

I feel for guys like me the bikes are all getting too tall and they are not getting much lighter if at all.

For me having had the council build the ground close to my bum a simple lower seated lighter weight bike is perfect.

I think for all round a nicely suspended DR650 with its air cooled simplicity and (almost) bomb proof record you prolly can't go far wrong.

I may look at some good suspension options as I intend to keep this bike for long time, does anyone know options for the forks, i.e. replacement cartridges which allows adjustment etc, Nordie did you do anything with your shock in the end?

[NordieBoy]

Intiminators in the front with stock springs to start with.
Gold valve in rear with new spring.

I've got new springs front and rear, Intiminatored front and 10W oil in the back.

[Monstaman]

Intiminators in the front with stock springs to start with.
Gold valve in rear with new spring.

I've got new springs front and rear, Intiminatored front and 10W oil in the back.

I read somewhere that the intiminators get confused or something over multiple littte bumps?, so what exactly are the improvement made by the Int's or what function do they enhance?

With the shock does the new gold valve give better damping adjustment to the rebound?, mine like others probably on full rebound is still pretty washy and not strong enough.

Sorry for the questions but I can't find an answer with the forum search and quite frankly he who has done it has the best knowledge!

Intrigue me with techno stuff and useful info.

[Number 5]

I thought it was going to be a TDM engine 900cc rather than a heavy 1200?

From the info on the CarpeTDM forum it is going to be a 1200, the TDM twin engine upgraded again (750 super Tenere, 850 and 900 TDM) to 1200.

Some have been seen in Italy, where it is under development, and pics posted on the forum.

[warewolf]

I read somewhere that the intiminators get confused or something over multiple littte bumps?, so what exactly are the improvement made by the Int's or what function do they enhance?

Possibly my comment testing Nordie's bike, reported in his Newby thread or Nelson rides? It was that the most obvious place they didn't perform really well, was over a rapid sequence of bigger bumps. Most dramatic improvement is reducing fork dive under brakes, which leaves a lot more suspension travel (and compliance) for absorbing bumps.