Nick Smith Auckland Nat meeting open to public

[Pixie]

I hate the word 'paradigm'.

Meyer: Excuse me, but "proactive" and "paradigm"? Aren't these just
buzzwords that dumb people use to sound important?
[backpedaling] Not that I'm accusing you of anything like that.
[pause] I'm fired, aren't I?
Myers: Oh, yes.

[flyingcrocodile46]

One point that came out of the meeting that I had only suspected.. it appears (as it was uncontested when I suggested it was the case... cunt wouldn't answer the direct question emphatically) that the $62500000 against the motorcyclist account not only covers claims made this year, but also all ongoing payments (relating to motorcycle accidents) for claims made in earlier years. (these may even include claims from the very first ACC year)

We are being asked to pay forward (perhaps for several years) to cover all potential future ACC costs related to accidents occurring in the current year. Smyth says we should do this as it wouldn't be fair to lumber future generations with those costs.

WELL WHAT ABOUT BEING FAIR TO THIS FUCKING GENERATION???
Is it fair that we should have to pay for costs arising from historic claims, current claims and future claims???

FUCK NO

[Ronin]

I hate the word 'paradigm'.

Hate..... Now there's a paradigm I can get into.

[drummer]

Did anyone ask him how he reconciles his role a climate change minister with his agenda to price the most fuel efficient transport off the road?

I had my hand up.. the MC and my local wbranch chairman who apparently now has a vendetta against me wandered down from his throne and told me I couldn't ask another question.. when I told him the question his reply sounded something like urghhhhh. It seems Cy didn't like me calling him politically weak... taken it too personally... msg to Cy... grow up coz I know you have the forum on watch... He allowed several multiple questions... reckon Cy needs to retire from politics... it only gets harder

Hence... assumption... local branch does NOT care about the environment/bike related issue folks... time for action anyone?

Peter

[flyingcrocodile46]

Is "Cy" the one that was showing off his pole smoking technique?

Yeah mate! He had it down pat. The front benchers must love him MWUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[drummer]

Is "Cy" the one that was showing off his pole smoking technique?

Yeah mate! He had it down pat. The front benchers must love him MWUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Cyrus was the MC.. the self proclaimed "Parky". He is actually a nice Christian bloke.. but is in my opinion politically way over his head... I just hope he realises that politics is rough and if you take it personally it will throw you. So far he has had the reins of a "yes man" branch... when I came along and challenged it to be more open and far thinking.. bang I was gone.. I have tried to remain friends with Cy but for other reasons.. politics is dirty folks.. but should be left at the debating table...

I also thought Nick Smith took it personally.. Allan Peachey as the best in my opinion and he was glad to see us all there...

Peter

[Subike]

Well I think this was more of a succes than you guys think.
Media attitude is changing towards bikers, im sure of this.
we have been on the news in one way or another as protesters for how long now? every week, once twice even three times on national television.
And im sure it is more, three times today alone!
Im sure that Joe Public has just got to be curious.
If these bikers are in the wrong, where are the police????????
But But But they are just noisey celf centered bikers.....
Where is the riot squad seen at other protests in the past?
Where are the plackards, the shouting of the other protests?
No
Joe public is starting to take notice, lots of notice.

If we bikers keep hitting the new desks, papers, and are in peoples face for the next few months, Joe Citizen is going to listen, because by then we will have the semblence of a political party, and they will start to question and listen..
Solidarity of the Polish workers under a comunist government bought it down by continuing against all odds, because they were in the right. So are we!

[MadDuck]

He is actually a nice Christian bloke..

Hmmm. Maybe explains why he didnt realise what his hand gesturing was?

[flyingcrocodile46]

Hmmm. Maybe explains why he didnt realise what his hand gesturing was?

Damn I would love to lay my hands on the TV3 film footage of the MC showing off his pole smoking technique while trying to signal a questioner that he needed to hold his microphone closer. Imagine the fun you could have making a little clip with Nick reeling off his polished spin then switching to the MC enthusiastically gesticulating his approval of each line of bullshit.. repeat, repeat etc

Maybe I should apply for a press pass and do our own video of the question and answer sessions that we can then edit to create our own spin. We could upload it to the interwobble... LMAO

[caseye]

Go for it Croc, it's only a press pass for goodness sake.
Some have said Nick enjoyed last night, I thought initially that he'd held his own.Upon reflection I believe that Mr sMyth really did not enjoy his time in front of us and I hear that he further didn't enjoy being made to remember BRONZ's email to him, the one he Lied about not receiving in front of the whole place.
Down with Smith, down with Smith give us an ACC Minister who can count, add and subtract and use one set of figures and allow that if he can use them to make his points so can we!

[drummer]

Hmmm. Maybe explains why he didnt realise what his hand gesturing was?

He was in WAY over his head and flustered

P

[MadDuck]

He was in WAY over his head and flustered

Under the circumstances he did bloody well. It was not fair of the National Party to throw him in the deep end like that.

[drummer]

The part I loved amongst others was when counciller Toni Millar actually challenged Nickster about bicycle rego's.. shes in the same branch as the MC!! Go Toni.. they'll chuck you out now too LOL! Toni... Join us and bring Banksie along.. after all he rides a Harley and is in C & R.. like you what a hoot.. this branch can't be very united now!! An MC showing us how to do a blowie and a Nat Councillor challenging Smith re bicycles.. I am glad I'm not part of them.. time to change guard there away from apologists. The Nats don't need a bunch of fools and politically weak minded Chardonaay suckers.

Peter

[drummer]

Under the circumstances he did bloody well. It was not fair of the National Party to throw him in the deep end like that.

Not fair? he was looking fwd to it.. Its just hes politically weak in my opinion... he just sat back with no control...

Nice clean cut guy though.. hear that Cyrus? You are not the political animal you think u were! Taking things personally is so stupid... and not like u... like this Forum Cy?

Peter

[drummer]

Hey Short Circuit.. don't leave silly phone msg's please. my partner described u as an uncouth youth

Peter