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[Eddieb]

Doesn't sound like much of an adventure ride then, just an organised trail ride for plated trail bikes.

[Crisis management]

Hmmm, that has a deja vu ring to it for me!

Such a pity my bikes were( are) broken.

Your mate Des was there too...not quite the oldest rider, there was one guy on a Gas gas 200 who was 68!

Doesn't sound like much of an adventure ride then, just an organised trail ride for plated trail bikes.

That was pretty much my findings but for the mid sized bikes it was do-able and I enjoyed the challenges as well as getting to enjoy the ride there and back. It was good to see what the bike was capable of (and what the rider was not capable of!) and I would certainly do it again.

To keep it in perspective, there were DR650s, KLR650s and a F800GS that did the same bits I did so for that size bike (up to 200kgs?) it was certainly ridable.

[Waihou Thumper]

Doesn't sound like much of an adventure ride then, just an organised trail ride for plated trail bikes.

I think it always has been sort of like that Eddie. I think Jim said the same, there are bikes that aren't even road legal, just throw on the plate and it becomes a trail ride. I wonder if there any checks for that sort of thing or they just took the entry fees and wanted a big turn out? I guess if you were organising it you might turn a blind eys if someone turned up with borrowed plates and a bike to ride but wanted to part with a couple of Hundred?

[warewolf]

Doesn't sound like much of an adventure ride then, just an organised trail ride for plated trail bikes.

C'mon chaps, don't be so dismissive of someone else's definition of adventure.

This forum is heavily biased to the adventure/road end of the spectrum rather than the adventure/trail end. As far as I'm concerned, if it requires road rego it's an adventure ride, whether big bikes can hack it or not. No road rego = trail ride. Fairly simple and clear demarcation.

Some ppl pride themselves that their chosen mount can do hours of motorways well; others that they can do gnarly single-track. Either way, it's still adventure...

[Oscar]

C'mon chaps, don't be so dismissive of someone else's definition of adventure.

This forum is heavily biased to the adventure/road end of the spectrum rather than the adventure/trail end. As far as I'm concerned, if it requires road rego it's an adventure ride, whether big bikes can hack it or not. No road rego = trail ride. Fairly simple and clear demarcation.

Some ppl pride themselves that their chosen mount can do hours of motorways well; others that they can do gnarly single-track. Either way, it's still adventure...

It was an Adventure Ride by any definition.
I rode my 950 to it via some interesting backroads for a total of about 1100kmsfor the weekend.

Our crew had a R100GS, a Cagiva Grand Canyon, a DR650 and a new Tenrere, and we did most of the trail sections (well I did, but the Beemer shit itself). Like Iain said, the off road bits were perhaps on the limit for big bikes (I too fell off four times), but it was an interesting challenge.

[warewolf]

but the Beemer shit itself

Geez, that wasn't the uber-fartzen-fuhrer's AGAIN, was it?

[Oscar]

Geez, that wasn't the uber-fartzen-fuhrer's AGAIN, was it?

I can neither confirm nor deny the fact that it shit a drive seal...

[Crisis management]

I wonder if there any checks for that sort of thing or they just took the entry fees and wanted a big turn out?

NO, you're wrong in this case Mark, it was clearly spelled out what you were getting into and the bikes were all road legal, I was just surprised at the number of trailers involved. I obviously need to get out more!

C'mon chaps, don't be so dismissive of someone else's definition of adventure.

+1. Well said Colin.


Oscar, I was wondering where you lot got to, sorry to hear about the big red explosion.....

[clint640]

NO, you're wrong in this case Mark, it was clearly spelled out what you were getting into and the bikes were all road legal, I was just surprised at the number of trailers involved. I obviously need to get out more!
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I think most of the commercially organised adventure rides are basically trail rides with a few road sections. When I first got the 640 in 04 I went on a Britton one at Rotorua - allegedly big bikes welcome, I thought if they are inviting people on the big pigs I should be ok even though I was still getting my dirt legs on the KTM. There were about 6 of us that actually rode there out of 200 - I struggled through a lot of it on the 640 & felt sorry for the 2 poor bastards that had turned up on BMW GS's.

The organisers of these rides must have got sick of hauling big bikes out of bogs etc though as now they are usually labelled as trail-adventure.

Cheers
Clint

[warewolf]

Yep, very few ppl ride to adventure trail rides, but hey if you are used to trailering your bike everywhere, riding it there seems unusual. Plus ppl would rather fit fresh knobbies and not cut them up on the road ride to get there, and/or travel in the comfort of a car for the knackered trip back.

[Waihou Thumper]

NO, you're wrong in this case Mark, it was clearly spelled out what you were getting into and the bikes were all road legal, I was just surprised at the number of trailers involved. I obviously need to get out more!

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Sorry, okay, understand now...Shut Up Mark!

[ducatijim]

[QUOTE=warewolf;1129556102]Yep, very few ppl ride to adventure trail rides, QUOTE]

This is wot I have found in the past and been severely scolded for criticising a glorified trail ride, complete with psyudo regd bikes, that has been advertised as an adventure ride.

Yes, I know, an adventure ride is wot you find it/make it to be.

Of course, Brittens missed out on 40 or so folk like me who now know better and don't want to do an expensive 'trail' ride, particularly on big, duel purpose bikes. But better that for them, than to miss out on the 70 'trail terrorist' types who had a ball and helped pay Mikes bills. That is wot the majority want, thats wot commercial operators will provide.

Hence my dig at someone last week on here; these trail terrorists are the ones who make it hard for us poor unskilled folk by setting the bar ever higher.

Thats why I have no friends and make my own adventures.

[Eddieb]

This is wot I have found in the past and been severely scolded for criticising a glorified trail ride, complete with psyudo regd bikes, that has been advertised as an adventure ride.

Yes, I know, an adventure ride is wot you find it/make it to be.

Of course, Brittens missed out on 40 or so folk like me who now know better and don't want to do an expensive 'trail' ride, particularly on bike duel purpose bikes. But better that for them, than to miss out on the 70 'trail terrorist' types who had a ball and helped pay Mikes bills. That is wot the majority want, thats wot commercial operators will provide.

Hence my dig at someone last week on here; these trail terrorists are the ones who make it hard for us poor unskilled folk.

Thats why I have no friends and make my own adventures.

+1 and some good choices of words. To me any event thats designed around riders with plated enduro weapons which are trailered to the ride is as you put it a glorified trail ride, even if it is an adventure for the riders concerned

[Oscar]

This is wot I have found in the past and been severely scolded for criticising a glorified trail ride, complete with psyudo regd bikes, that has been advertised as an adventure ride.

Yes, I know, an adventure ride is wot you find it/make it to be.

Of course, Brittens missed out on 40 or so folk like me who now know better and don't want to do an expensive 'trail' ride, particularly on bike duel purpose bikes. But better that for them, than to miss out on the 70 'trail terrorist' types who had a ball and helped pay Mikes bills. That is wot the majority want, thats wot commercial operators will provide.

Hence my dig at someone last week on here; these trail terrorists are the ones who make it hard for us poor unskilled folk.

Thats why I have no friends and make my own adventures.

I tend to agree with you.
It was an adventure for me because of the ride there and the company, but I have to say that (despite it's advertising), it is not a ride for big bikes.

Apart from being expensive and not really catering for big bikes (it's a Catch 22 - if you don't attempt the trail bits, there's not much left) I also have issues with some of the heroes on trail bikes. It is not a ride I would repeat.

The irony is that the last FNAR I went to several years ago was much the same, and I said so in KRN - and promptly set the record for outraged letters to the editor.

[Oscar]

Oscar, I was wondering where you lot got to, sorry to hear about the big red explosion.....

Vege managed to nurse it home, and we carried on.

After highsiding for the third time, I decided that enough was enough, so we skipped the last trail section and legged it straight back to our luxurious accommodations. Unfortunately the last tennant had left an almost full bottle of Bombay Sapphire in the freezer, which Osbourne and I promptly polished off...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

That's why you didn't see us at the dinner...