To all those people who voted National.

[gammaguy]

It seems every day the media is reporting another Nat.- fuck-up.

Nat supporters view this as a Left leaning press.
Demonstrably wrong.

The perception that the National party is for business is pretty ironic.
If you look at the stats over the last forty years you would see business failures reaching record numbers under National govts.
Foreign big business does OK tho'.

The perception that the Labour party is for dole bludgers is similarly flawed as unemployment reaches record lows whenever Labour govts. are at the helm. Lower unemployment = fewer dole bludgers.

too right

and fewer dole bludgers means less crime,the social flow on effects are huge.

[naphazoline]

The perception that the National party is for business is pretty ironic.
If you look at the stats over the last forty years you would see business failures reaching record numbers under National govts.
Foreign big business does OK tho'.

The perception that the Labour party is for dole bludgers is similarly flawed as unemployment reaches record lows whenever Labour govts. are at the helm. Lower unemployment = fewer dole bludgers.

I hope you're not going by the media,or governmental statistics,as we all know TOO well what bullshit they make of them.

[oldrider]

Our medical system is appallingly bad and I only have bad things to say about it particularly when it comes to child health issues. Raging incompetence and filthy conditions. Between two of my kids I've had 27 admissions to deal with in the last 6 years and I do the majority of the Nursing work over night because staff never address issues like alerting flow guards or maintaining treatment plans involving medication. If my wife or I don't do it, it doesn't happen. We constantly battle decisions made by doctors that haven't been discussed with us first.

We never go through those admissions without catching secondary infections and I've had to deal with Glandular fever, encephalitis, swine flu, strep B infections, septicaemia, and a variety of bacterial and viral gastro-intestinal disorders, and these get passed onto colleagues and workmates, simply because hospitals don't get cleaned any more. Too expensive. I'm talking Hutt, Wellington, and Starship too.

Primary healthcare is a joke as well. GPs that charge $100 a visit and then the head of GPs pops up on the radio and says, "Cost shouldn't discourage people from visiting their GP."

Avgas: I would fuck off, but can't get residency in any other country with an Immigration department. For obvious reasons.

Spacemonkey: We have hospitals - but count your limbs at the door and make sure you have the same number when you leave. Depending on whether or not you're in to have some off of course, in which case check you have the correct ones when you leave.

Totally agree with that expressed opinion!

New Zealand hospitals are a disgrace and are some of the most dangerous places in the country!

Anyone who thinks otherwise has either got their head up there arse, are blind, or haven't been near one lately!

[SPman]

Giving that serious consideration. I'd rather be a 2nd class citizen under Maori, than a 3rd class slave under a Chinese Provincial Governor.

I've done it twice - after the debacle of this current parliament, I won't be doing it a third time.

[Skyryder]

Totally agree with that expressed opinion!

New Zealand hospitals are a disgrace and are some of the most dangerous places in the country!

Anyone who thinks otherwise has either got their head up there arse, are blind, or haven't been near one lately!

Jeez OR I gota go and get checked out on the 21st.

Bookings for my 'wake' at the KB original rally?? and more


Skyryder

[scissorhands]

You'll live. Just permanently never the same again.

I had a scan and later then an Xray and couldnt be happier with Greenlane Hospital....hardly even a wait, very smooth experience, would trade again AAA+++

[phaedrus]

Totally agree with that expressed opinion!

New Zealand hospitals are a disgrace and are some of the most dangerous places in the country!

Anyone who thinks otherwise has either got their head up there arse, are blind, or haven't been near one lately!

it depends on the hospital and doctors you get.
Timaru fer instance, you'd be better off getting a rusty knife and giving it a go yourself.

compared to dunedin.. i was out in about 3 days with some new tin bits.

[98tls]

it depends on the hospital and doctors you get.
Timaru fer instance, you'd be better off getting a rusty knife and giving it a go yourself.

compared to dunedin.. i was out in about 3 days with some new tin bits.

If you think Timarus bad try Oamaru,went there once with a dislocated thumb not particularly serious but at the time annoyingly painful,getting to see a doctor was like breaking into Fort Knox and when i finally got to see one turns out hes Indian,i have no problem with Indians but found it annoying that i couldnt understand a word he said nor him a word i said,pretty obvious what the problem was but after 20 minutes of trying to explain my name and addy so he could fill out some bit of paper i had had enough,he seemed to understand "fuck off ive had enough of this shit" and i left,the nurse (who could understand English) caught me up down the corridor and attended to my thumb.

[James Deuce]

it depends on the hospital and doctors you get.
Timaru fer instance, you'd be better off getting a rusty knife and giving it a go yourself.

compared to dunedin.. i was out in about 3 days with some new tin bits.

It doesn't depend on the Doctors. It depends entirely on Hospital Management. Doctors are interchangeable units and 8/10ths of them are temporary visitors to a particular hospital, on the way to gaining qualifications that lead to a better paying private practice in another country. Always remember that Doctors are the people who sorted out how to pass an exam at school. They're usually not the sort of people you'd enjoy a pint with, unless you wanted a lecture on how you're doing it all wrong.

Nursing management defines patient contact culture and that is where NZ's hospitals most often fail. Nursing management are strapped for cash and generally poor communicators. Hospital Management don't give a flying fuck about their plight and continue to operate at dangerously low staffing levels, usually relying on under-qualified ill-experienced staff, because you can only take that shit for so long before you go and never return. Getting 20 years out of a Nurse is unusual, and their institutional knowledge is under-valued by Management and patients alike.

[oldrider]

Funny thing is most procedures in public hospitals cost a whole lot more overall than the equivalent in a private hospital!

NZ public (read voters) are completely unaware (read brainwashed) about this!

[spacemonkey]

Funny thing is most procedures in public hospitals cost a whole lot more overall than the equivalent in a private hospital!

Got anything to back this statement up?

[Brian d marge]

Sorry

all good here

Could walk out door after 2 bottles of plonk

Drive even ( I wouldnt but you could )

and get an MRI scan on me foot , and still be home before dawn ,,,,

in fact the opposite is true here

took boy in, for fever he got spinal tap three days in pokey and we had to smuggle him out as they wouldnt let him leave

cost

about fifty dollars
including meals for mum
Stephen

[oldrider]

Got anything to back this statement up?

Yep! But the material is confidential! (privacy)

[spacemonkey]

Yep! But the material is confidential! (privacy)

Then I'll file your comment under "probably bullshit"

[pete376403]

Got anything to back this statement up?

Anecdotal - when I first inquired about a cochlear implant, first thing they asked was "do you have insurance?". If I was insured, I could have had the op literally that week. As I did not, I went onto a waiting list for some four years or so.
Government funding paid the $50K for the op, for which I will be grateful for the rest of my life, but I do recall the surgeon saying it would have been a lot cheaper if done privately.
HOWEVER - with the govt funding, that pays for any ongoing costs of the CI for as long as I have it / live, as well as the initial costs of the surgery and hardware. The private plan would have been for the operation and the hardware
only, and any after services would be paid for separately, so it wasn't an entirely valid comparison.