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    Angry Warranty claim settled at glacial speed

    On Saturday 12 December I retrieved my Aprilia SL750 Shiver from TSS Motorcycles. It now has an operating speedometer, odometer and thermometer.

    The work done was a warranty claim, lodged with and accepted by the New Zealand distributor on 6 March -- just a whisker over nine months ago.

    This speedo sensor issue is a well-documented fault for the early model Shivers, of which mine is one. Rather than issuing a general recall, Aprilia has instead opted to deal with this on a case by case basis. Fair enough. Mine was one such case.

    The main reason that this case was resolved in such a "timely" manner (before the two-year, unlimited kilometre factory warranty expired) was because I repeatedly harangued "New Zealand's most customer focused and experienced importer of European motorcycles", eventually suggesting that this matter be dealt with by a certain date, or I would be returning the Shiver to them in return for a full refund, as I am entitled to do under New Zealand law.

    That resulted in a sensor unit being "found" in Taiwan and being "urgently couriered" to New Zealand -- a journey that required follow-up by me to complete.

    Rather than delivering this sensor unit to TSS, the dealership through which the warranty claim was lodged and accepted back in March, it was sent to Motorad in Wellington with, as it turns out, instructions not to release it to TSS. That would have been OK had New Zealand's most customer focused and experienced importer of European motorcycles seen fit to inform me of this.

    My priority has always been to get the necessary work completed. If Triumph had informed me that Motorad was their sanctioned service agent in Wellington and that I should get this work done there, I would have. Instead I booked my bike in with TSS for the necessary work to be completed prior to heading off on a week's holiday, during which time more detective work was required to hunt down the recalcitrant sensor unit and finally get it delivered to TSS for the job to be done.

    My expectations may be poorly calibrated, but I think that this is nothing short of appalling service on the part of Triumph New Zealand. Their attitude to this case has been blase and communication pitiful. Their last act in terms of sending the unit to Motorad instead of TSS, without notifying me, is childish and spiteful.

    I bought my Shiver on 4 January this year, after much umming and arring. The two-year, unlimited factory warranty was a major driver of my purchase decision. The attitude and performance of the Aprilia New Zealand distributor ostensibly makes that warranty worthless.

    My big fear is that something on my Shiver (which I love to bits, by the way) will fail or break (e.g. a clutch or brake lever, or stone damage to the headlight) and I will have to go through this performance again with Triumph New Zealand who I suspect has no parts other than filters in stock for Aprilias.

    I strongly caution anybody considering buying a new Aprilia to get a written statement from Triumph New Zealand that they will honour Aprilia warranty claims in a timely manner. Nine months, I suggest, is not timely. If this hadn't been a warranty claim my bike would have been fixed by early April, with a US$80 component imported either from AF1 in the USA or from Aprilia Australia.

    I keep telling myself that I should be happy to have a fully functioning Shiver with very few kilometres on its odometer (2,270 to be precise). Instead I am disappointed, frustrated and angry with a distributor clearly missing in action. Aprilias are great bikes. They deserve better.
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    That's pretty shocking Brett. Are you going to formally follow it up with Triumph NZ and the UK?

    The old statistic about a dissatisfied customer telling 9 others and a satisfied customer only telling 3 is somewhat magnified with Kiwi Biker!

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    You deserved to be pissed and disappointed by the appalling service. And you've done the KB community a service by posting how difficult it is to get the warranty honoured.

    Thanks Hitcher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackbird View Post
    That's pretty shocking Brett. Are you going to formally follow it up with Triumph NZ and the UK?
    I don't think that Triumph New Zealand actually cares about who buys its bikes. My non-legal options are being quietly mulled over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher View Post
    I don't think that Triumph New Zealand actually cares about who buys its bikes. My non-legal options are being quietly mulled over.
    Mmmmm.... that's why I wondered whether the UK would like to know, not to mention the Aprilia websites! Aprilia themselves might not be too happy either.

    Nothing like blackening reputations to get a response!

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    That service doesn't surprise me in the least, Bret. I suddenly feel a lot better that my Aprilia only took five months to fix!

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    historically importers HATE deling with individual purchasers,they prefer to deal with....um....dealers.

    My advice is to make it the dealers problem,and get right on their case.If they are any dealer worth their salt they will happily go into battle for you.

    And under the CGA this does not necessarily have to be the franchise dealer either.Its all about using the correct channels,which admittedly can slow the process down.

    Personally i would have used my rights under the CGA after a lot less than nine months,and returned the thing for a full refund as you were quite rightly entitled to.

    Bad service in New Zealand is still alive and well apparently.

    If Triumph NZ really care about their product,instead of merely adding another string to their already overstretched bow,I would like to see them offer their side of the story on here.

    Fat chance.

    I wonder if the monopolies commission would like to hear about how many brands are currently imported by the lumbering giant that is Triumph NZ and all the spin offs it has?

    just a thought...............
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    Quote Originally Posted by gammaguy View Post
    My advice is to make it the dealers problem,and get right on their case.If they are any dealer worth their salt they will happily go into battle for you.
    There is a lot of politics and ill will about recent changes to Aprilia distributorship changes in New Zealand. Arguably Aprilia and Guzzi buyers have benefited from that -- my Shiver was $2,000 off "list" price when I bought it. Other purchasers have received discounts of about $6,000 on some new Aprilia and Guzzi models purchased earlier this year.

    Some Aprilia dealers, TSS Red Baron in Lower Hutt being one, resigned their Aprilia dealerships earlier this year. It's not my job to reveal why they did that. But it can be safely assumed that all was not well with the relationship between them and the New Zealand distributor.

    The reason I directly took up my case with Triumph New Zealand was because they had stopped talking with TSS. I suggest that it is difficult for a dealer to "go into battle" if the adversary (who arguably shouldn't be an adversary) refuses to engage, which is exactly what happened.

    The CGA allows me to deal directly with the distributor which, given that my issue is an Aprilia factory warranty related matter, is something that they are in a better position to resolve than is a retailer. The CGA is quite clear about their liability in such matters too.
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    Sorry to hear about that, Hitcher.

    Personally, I would have rejected it under the CGA much sooner than nine months.

    I liked them Shivers too - I don't think I'll consider one now.
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    Oddly - the suppliers of spare parts to brands imported by this organisation have done well out of their policy of having limited to no spares for their brands. Hard to understand why a filter for a new bike cannot be had off the shelf.

    Still - the internet is a big place and solutions are found - but - to be fair these folks are not in business to keep silly old oily fingered oiks like me happy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mully View Post
    Personally, I would have rejected it under the CGA much sooner than nine months.

    I liked them Shivers too - I don't think I'll consider one now.
    The fact that I didn't give Mr Triumph back his motorcycle earlier is testimony to just how great a bike the Shiver is! I have no bitch about the Shiver at all.

    It's only some of the early ones that had issues with dashboard condensation (another warranty claim lodged on 6 March 2010 that Triumph New Zealand has forgotten about) and speed sensors. Don't buy one with a gold trellis frame and you'll be just fine. Having said that, Triumph New Zealand hasn't imported any 2009 model bikes with the silver trellis frames yet.
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    You are more patient than I woudl have been with a problem of this sort, on a new, expensive motorbike. The CGA makes it the retailers problem - i would have had them in the Disputes tribunal in a month.
    BTW this is not the first or only complaint that I have heard about Triumph NZ. That, along with the overpriced NZ parts is one of hte main reasons I don't now ride a 1050 Sprint. Had enough of that from BMW, and Triumph is apparently worse.
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    Triumph new zealand what a joke,I wanted a sprag gear for a 93 trident,not in stock I was told fair enough old bike and all that, how long to get one and price please 6-8 weeks and $550.00 ah no thanks on to the jack lilley website,kath lilley replies we have one in stock $310.00 freighted to nz took 5 days go figure i don't think Ian beckhaus needs any of my money as he's already got plenty.

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    My RS125 took nearly a year to resolve an eccentric rear sproket carrier that caused the chain to run loose & tight as it revolved.
    I imagine i must have encountered some of the most feeble excuses & useless cunts that ever worked in the motorcycle industry during that time.
    And it makes absolutely no difference how many Aprilia's you own as to how they treat you.
    My RSV1000 never got the indicator switch it needed, ever.

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    Well I hate to say it but I have totally given up on the NZ Distributor on parts supply. Totally useless is too higher rating. I called into the local agent and according to them there was not a clutch lever or an indicator lens in the country and would have to be ordered ex Italy. Its bollocks! Prior to Triumph getting their mitts on the marque I have had great service.
    Needless to say I sourced the parts elsewhere and received the required parts with a week ex AF1 in the states.
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