R1200GS BMW are they worth the extra money?

**thepom** · 14th December 2009, 08:00

I,d prefer the 800 gs myself......

**_Shrek_** · 14th December 2009, 14:14

i have only ridden the 1200Gs on rd but as it's around 60kg lighter than my 1150 found it alot more nimble in town as for off rd i would like to try, i take my 1150 off rd ie: where there were tracks once & now just smooth grass, ruts & hollows & it handles these realy well with full nobby's the last time two up it took 1hr 10 min to go 33k's

but handled well down side i wasn't allowed to go fast
on road couldn't ask for a nicer ride & the wife loves the comfort have clocked up 65k this year approx

**Oscar** · 14th December 2009, 14:19

Originally Posted by _Shrek_

i have only ridden the 1200Gs on rd but as it's around 60kg lighter than my 1150 found it alot more nimble in town as for off rd i would like to try, i take my 1150 off rd ie: where there were tracks once & now just smooth grass, ruts & hollows & it handles these realy well with full nobby's the last time two up it took 1hr 10 min to go 33k's

but handled well down side i wasn't allowed to go fast
on road couldn't ask for a nicer ride & the wife loves the comfort have clocked up 65k this year approx

60kg lighter than yer 1150?
What did the 1150 weigh - 265kg?

**_Shrek_** · 14th December 2009, 14:25

Originally Posted by Oscar

60kg lighter than yer 1150?
What did the 1150 weigh - 265kg?

249 gassed + what ever the crash bars & top box weigh
my under standing is that the 1200 is 190 gassed

**Oscar** · 14th December 2009, 14:32

Originally Posted by _Shrek_

249 gassed + what ever the crash bars & top box weigh
my under standing is that the 1200 is 190 gassed

BMW's press release for the 1200gs claimed 199kg dry of all fluids, a saving of 30kg on the 1150gs.

**_Shrek_** · 14th December 2009, 14:34

Originally Posted by Oscar

BMW's press release for the 1200gs claimed 199kg dry of all fluids, a saving of 30kg on the 1150gs.

then the fella at the shop telling me porkies

will now go & weigh to see how heavy 1150 is as it stands

**Devil** · 14th December 2009, 14:47

Love my 12GSA.
Had 650km to the tank. 600km two up with luggage (used 32 Litres - 33 litre tank).
Blows headlight bulbs occasionally but it has the decency to tell you via the dash (LAMPF).
The Adventure is pretty tall. After putting in the Ohlins rear she sits pretty high.
Did the rear shock because two up with the kitchen sink the OEM shock couldn't really handle the jandal, but it was good 1up.

Surprising in the twisties. Very nimble. I commute on it too, haven't managed to get it stuck between any cars yet heh.

Got two weeks in the South Island over new years. Cant wait!

1200GS Adventure is supposedly 253KG fully fuelled (thats 33 Litres of gas onboard).

Adventure is $33ish grand, standard is around $26/27k

**Oscar** · 14th December 2009, 15:10

Originally Posted by _Shrek_

then the fella at the shop telling me porkies

will now go & weigh to see how heavy 1150 is as it stands

This subject is always controversial - manufacturers have a history of misinformation and shady dealings when it comes to bike specs.

From BMW NZ:

Dimensions/Weights R 1200 GS Adventure R 1200 GS

Unladen Road Ready Fully Fuelled: 256 kg 229 kg
Dry Weight: 223 kg 203 kg

**BMWST?** · 14th December 2009, 15:17

whats the capacity of the std(ie not adventure tank?)

**warewolf** · 14th December 2009, 15:19

Originally Posted by Oscar

Dry Weight: 223 kg 203 kg

Faark! Has the GSA really got 20kg of extras?

And how many of those are things ppl might typically bolt on to the std bike?

**James Deuce** · 14th December 2009, 15:19

Originally Posted by Devil

Surprising in the twisties. Very nimble. I commute on it too, haven't managed to get it stuck between any cars yet heh.

If you ever do, pictures are compulsory.

**Devil** · 14th December 2009, 15:24

Originally Posted by warewolf

Faark! Has the GSA really got 20kg of extras?

And how many of those are things ppl might typically bolt on to the std bike?

Well I wouldn't have thought it was 20kg but here goes:
Bigger screen + winglets
Gel seat
big part will be the crashbars and tank protection.
Different shocks - no idea if heavier or not
Comes with meaty BMW luggage rack.
The bigger tank makes a diff (I think the standard tank is 22L).
Uhm. Cant think of what else...
Oh the fancy spoked wheels are prob a little heavier than the cast jobbies on the standard GS.

**Kokopelli** · 14th December 2009, 15:42

Originally Posted by _Shrek_

then the fella at the shop telling me porkies

will now go & weigh to see how heavy 1150 is as it stands

I wouldn't get too hung up on weight. It is what it is. Most people quite happily carry an extra 10kg above their belt, but get all uptight if their bike is not the lightest around. The 1150 is a heavy pig to pick up, and that's about the only time the extra weight matters. People always seem to rush over to help pick up a bike. Haven't had to pick mine up alone yet. A few kg less aren't going to turn it into a dirt bike.

**_Shrek_** · 14th December 2009, 15:53

Originally Posted by Kokopelli

I wouldn't get too hung up on weight. It is what it is. Most people quite happily carry an extra 10kg above their belt, but get all uptight if their bike is not the lightest around. The 1150 is a heavy pig to pick up, and that's about the only time the extra weight matters. People always seem to rush over to help pick up a bike. Haven't had to pick mine up alone yet. A few kg less aren't going to turn it into a dirt bike.

i have no brobs picking it up, as for the weight it's what i pass on when asked, other than that i don't realy care as i do tend to load it up when heading away for the weekend two up