Shooting in Warkworth (4 December)

[Maha]

If he's fooling around with a loaded gun, or a gun he hasn't checked to see if it's loaded, and someone else gets it, he deserves 15yrs for terminal homicidal stupidity!
And what's he doing with a loaded, sawn off shotgun, in a residential area, anyway.......?

Yip, fucking around inside a house with a loaded any sort of gun, will not end happily. I wont even have a gun on the property let alone inside the house.

It was described initially as a pistol...which (I think) makes it under 24 inches total length...way more than 2 inches cut off the barrel....

Correct, have a read of Mstrs pm (if he will let ya)....
A rather chilling insight.

[MSTRS:Me]

OK - we can know from Maha's info that it is an ordinary double-barreled, break action shotgun. One cartridge in each barrel. Probably a double trigger. It was sawn off, so depending on the overall length it could be legally described as a pistol (even tho it's not really).
But the whole thing about the gun is moot, anyway. This git loaded it, posed with it, pointed it at his girlfriend and pulled one of the triggers.
To me that's not really an accident, but I don't know what it would be...if no intent to kill.

[wbks]

It was a twin barrel sawn off shotgun, just take that as a given, it is fact, the pistol report was/is fiction. There was still one cartirdge in the gun when the police got their hands on it.

Calling a double barrel a pump action shows how accurate their reporting was, so I'd be wondering right about now; people coming to their own conclusion on what kind of person he is and why he had it; whether or not it's the right kind of info to base judgments on

[Maha]

Calling a double barrel a pump action shows how accurate their reporting was, so I'd be wondering right about now; people coming to their own conclusion on what kind of person he is and why he had it; whether or not it's the right kind of info to base judgments on

We would all like to beleive that Robin Hood was a good man, when in reality, he just a common thief. And I base my judgement on the fact that he stole from the rich, what he did with his takings is irrelivant, he was a thief.

I'd make a good Sheriff.

[James Deuce]

We would all like to beleive that Robin Hood was a good man, when in reality, he just a common thief. And I base my judgement on the fact that he stole from the rich, what he did with his takings is irrelivant, he was a thief.

I'd make a good Sheriff.

If Robin Hood existed. Probably a propaganda invention by the world's first systemic anti-Semite, one of Britain's most venerated, least effective monarchs, Richard the Lionheart. A good way to explain all the missing money being channelled into the Crusades is to tell everyone a disaffected noble stole it and ran away, then blame one of Britain's most pragmatic leaders and the inventor of the Constitutional Monarchy, Prince John, for not dealing with him. Then labelling every Jew in London with a Yellow Star of David and demanding all their money as a wedding present and then throwing them all out of the country because they're paupers.

Nothing like a fictional thief to cover your own sticky-fingered tracks.

Amazing what bending a news story to your own ends can eventually achieve, eh?

[SPman]

Mind due, the only time I hear keen hunter and shotgun.......usually follows "ducks"

I'd fecking duck, too, with all those hyped up hunters around.........

[MadDuck]

Mind due, the only time I hear keen hunter and shotgun.......usually follows "ducks"

I'd fecking duck, too, with all those hyped up hunters around.........

Yipes.....

[Maha]

If Robin Hood existed. Probably a propaganda invention by the world's first systemic anti-Semite, one of Britain's most venerated, least effective monarchs, Richard the Lionheart. A good way to explain all the missing money being channelled into the Crusades is to tell everyone a disaffected noble stole it and ran away, then blame one of Britain's most pragmatic leaders and the inventor of the Constitutional Monarchy, Prince John, for not dealing with him. Then labelling every Jew in London with a Yellow Star of David and demanding all their money as a wedding present and then throwing them all out of the country because they're paupers.

Nothing like a fictional thief to cover your own sticky-fingered tracks.

Amazing what bending a news story to your own ends can eventually achieve, eh?

Richard the Lionheart needed a Maid Marion in his life.
I picking he was short in stature.

[Patrick]

.... convicting someone of murder without knowing all the facts.

Say what?

You had that cop convicted of murder, before the jury acquitted him of manslaughter......

As someone pointed out..... Pot/Kettle.....

Do you know how far it is sawn off? For all you know it's had two inches off the end to make it easier to handle in the bush. Wouldn't be the first time its happened, and it can be perfectly legal, also

Any firearm under a given length (24"?) is classed as a pistol.

It was a twin barrel sawn off shotgun, just take that as a given, it is fact, the pistol report was/is fiction. There was still one cartirdge in the gun when the police got their hands on it.

If it is less than 762mm, it is classified as a pistol, regardless of what it once was... ie: shotgun, rifle...

762mm is fecking short and useless in the bush. It has one purpose - an unlawful one only......

[scumdog]

762mm is fecking short and useless in the bush. It has one purpose - an unlawful one only......

Ah, one my rifles is 765mm, very handy in scrub.

One of my shotguns is 800mm, also handy in scrub, matagouri etc.(bloody loud but!!)

Horses for courses..

[SixPackBack]

Say what?

You had that cop convicted of murder, before the jury acquitted him of manslaughter......

As someone pointed out..... Pot/Kettle.....

Without any context Patrick neither I nor anyone else has any idea of what you are talking about?......And if he's a cop you can bet I'm convicting him to wind -up either yourself or scumdog.


If it is less than 762mm, it is classified as a pistol, regardless of what it once was... ie: shotgun, rifle...

762mm is fecking short and useless in the bush. It has one purpose - an unlawful one only......

What the hell patrick??.....You are convicting the guy on the erroneous assumption, that because you think the barrel is to short he must be a crim.

Hey don't mind me, let the mighty KB_kangaroo_court_circus continue,everyones an expert, and everyone is a self styled expert with all the facts.

[Nasty]

What the hell patrick??.....You are convicting the guy on the erroneous assumption, that because you think the barrel is to short he must be a crim.

Hey don't mind me, let the mighty KB_kangaroo_court_circus continue,everyones an expert, and everyone is a self styled expert with all the facts.

I thought you were the KB_kangaroo_court_circus ... you certainly behave like it.

[Edbear]

Ah, one my rifles is 765mm, very handy in scrub.

One of my shotguns is 800mm, also handy in scrub, matagouri etc.(bloody loud but!!)

Horses for courses..

But that's 3mm too long to be a pistol so it's still a rifle...

[Patrick]

What the hell patrick??.....You are convicting the guy on the erroneous assumption, that because you think the barrel is to short he must be a crim.

Hey don't mind me, let the mighty KB_kangaroo_court_circus continue,everyones an expert, and everyone is a self styled expert with all the facts.

Haven't convicted him of anything. I will leave that to you.

But he did shoot his lady in the head on purpose or by stupidity. Either way.....

But hey, tell me what else a sawn off has any "lawful" purpose for.....??????

[SixPackBack]

After all the posturing and "I know" it appears the shooting was an accident. judge has indicated that home detention may well be appropriate in this case.
A long way from the serial killer painted in this thread!?