Replace or repair?

**Headbanger** · 21st December 2009, 22:45

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

Yeah the bastards gave me nothing but good service, fixed it up there and then, cheap as chips with a solutions that lasted the rest of the life of a new tire with no discernible performance degradation.

They put multiple plugs in a split tire on a heavy motorcycle capable of high speeds and sent you on your way. All in a tire that went down "suddenly" and was then ridden deflated to their location.

Fuck me, a recipe for death. I for one are glad it didn't go badly for you after the gross negligence of the tyre repair outfit.

**ManDownUnder** · 21st December 2009, 22:55

Originally Posted by Headbanger

They put multiple plugs in a split tire on a heavy motorcycle capable of high speeds and sent you on your way. All in a tire that went down "suddenly" and was then ridden deflated to their location.

Fuck me, a recipe for death. I for one are glad it didn't go badly for you after the gross negligence of the tyre repair outfit.

I know... it's great that I had absolutely no responsibility for the rest of the life of the tire to ensure it remained properly inflated and was safe. Combined with me suffering from a lethal combination of a repair product living up to it's claims and the gall of a repair outfit to use them as intended.

Just wish I could recall the ovall cross sections repair thingies used too. They were bloody good!

**LBD** · 22nd December 2009, 00:38

Originally Posted by PrincessBandit

After reading dangerous's sticky on puncture repair kits it got me wondering about the replace or repair debate.

This weekend we had to, for the very first time, use the "dog turd" sticky plug to bung a small puncture in my rear tyre. (Tyre was down to 15 psi!!!)
Because we were at home at the time we used our foot operated pump rather than the canister to replace the air. The disgusting brown thing was excellent actually, and relatively easy to use.

What I'm now wondering is - do I take the tyre in to get it repaired, or should I just bite the weenie and buy a new one? Or does it depend entirely on the circumstances? (Probably the latter....)

Just asking.

p.s. royally brassed off about it as I'd only done 2000km on it!

I always replace the front, and I almost always replace the rear...although there are variables. Ie did it go totally flat while riding and damage the side walls, or could there unseen damage and how do you ride the bike...

**Juzz976** · 22nd December 2009, 03:04

My opinion is mine and only mine, replace, new, upgrade, new, better, newer and not older if not get a new tire.

But I am me and I think me is good and me is what I want to be now and tomorrow and maybe just a bit longer than me with f'd tire.

**T.W.R** · 22nd December 2009, 07:20

Originally Posted by p.dath

A dog turd style repair (aka, plugged from outside of tyre) will fail a wof.

A proper repair place will fit a plug from the inside of the tyre. Should be safe enough. Your not planning on riding at 200km/h are you?

Cord plugs don't last forever.... they eventually dry out and you're back at the same place again with a leaking tyre. If the tyre has one in it & is spotted during a WOF check they'll fail the tyre on sight. Plus most emergency repair kit application tools aren't sturdy enough to fit the cord properly and the majority of the time the cord can be pulled out again by hand.....a properly fitted cord takes a fair bit of effort to be pulled out from the inner side of the tyre.

Mushroom plugs (internal fitment) aren't much chop on tubless tyres and are only really any good for tubed type tyre. The sealing agent once dry looses adheasion and eventually the tyre will leak again.

Flat patches (internal fitment) aren't safe by any means in a tyre unless a tube is fitted... same reason as with Mushroom plugs.

None should be used on roadbike tyres, the only proper repair is vulcanising and even that needs to be done properly. Will last the life of the tyre if it's a quality job.

**9rider** · 17th May 2011, 03:35

I did 1000ks on a dog turd until the next time I was doing a road trip then replaced the tyre. I had no problems with it at all.

**R1madness** · 17th May 2011, 18:46

The "dog turds" are not legal (having been banned in the mid 90s) and will fail a WOF for sure. A proper internal repair should last the life of the tire and is fine. However michelin do not recommend repairing their motorcycle tires and most other brands stipulate that their tires should not exceed 120km/h once repaired. But since the NZ speed limit is 100km/h then its not really a problem.... eh?

**shonofear** · 26th August 2011, 12:09

well, work mate just noticed a massive bit of nail sticking in my back wheel, wedged slightly to the left not in side though.
my thoughts would be that i could get it repaired easily enough
its only done round 2000kms on it so plenty of tread left.
and im only on a Bandit 250 so going over 120kph would be quiet uncommon, though was planning on gong to the Hampton Down Race Day this Sunday, would a repair handle a day at the tracks?

also in Epsom/Newmarket area now at work and wanted to ride straight into a place to get it fixed, any places close by?
was thinking maybe that motorbike place opposite Caltex on Broadway Ave Newmarket.

cheers

**DEATH_INC.** · 26th August 2011, 15:03

As long as it's done properly it'll be fine. Been there, done that etc...

**DEATH_INC.** · 26th August 2011, 15:05

Originally Posted by T.W.R

Mushroom plugs (internal fitment) aren't much chop on tubless tyres and are only really any good for tubed type tyre. The sealing agent once dry looses adheasion and eventually the tyre will leak again.

None should be used on roadbike tyres, the only proper repair is vulcanising and even that needs to be done properly.

Where on earth did you get this (mis)imformation ??????