Fuck fuck fuck - stripped sump plug

[vifferman]

Aye ?

Nay.

(I think you meant "Eh?")

[quickbuck]

Nah you would not do it with that no. Sorry thought it was metal

Yes it would simply melt LOL and not stay red for long hehe

CBR's have been around a while.... But they are far more high tech than the Model T Ford.
The sump IS made of Metal, but it is an Aluminium Alloy of some composition..... Likely to be 6000 Series if you can weld it.
Then you can weld almost anything these days

[quickbuck]

Just looked into that. Trouble is, they didn't want to sell just the sump (makes the rest of the engine worthless).

A shame the CBR motors are so reliable then isn't it....

If it was something else, there is a very good chance of finding one that has gone CLACK!

[steve_t]

And you know the absolute worst? I forgot to put the beers I bought yesterday in the fridge. Now I have warm Steinlager Pure to console my misery. Warm beer. Really.

You have to remember to do the REALLY important things at least! Warm beer? Bleh... crazy Poms

[FROSTY:Me]

that totally sucks dude.

[peasea]

I think if you were really desperate you could jam a cork in the hole.

Or a tampon perhaps?

Some years ago a guy I know was working on his dragster. He had a habit of being a bit heavy handed and in front of his missus (and a shed full of helpful types) he leaned on a power bar and snapped a bolt. His missus brought the place down with this classic line (which I should apply to this sump plug issue).........."Ya fuckin' fuckwit, ya fuckin' fucked it!"

[peasea]

Got my cuzzy to make a custom longer sump plug from a bolt - as somebody mentioned earlier it is often the threads nearest the outside that get munted, the ones further in are often left undamaged - hence why I got the longer sump-plug (complete with O-ring grove under the head of it, used a neoprene O-ring and never leaked a single drop, ever).

Ya have to put oil in it dude!

[peasea]

I gave Frosty a visit yesterday, and he gave me lots of good advice (thank you Frosty!). I ended up going to Repco this morning, and buying another sump plug. However when I screw it in I can't get it up to the correct torque before it starts slipping. So that means the sump thread is damaged worse than I had first hoped.

Taking the sump off on my bike would take someone of my abilities a long time. The exhaust headers effectively have to be removed to get to the sump. And to get to the exhaust headers is probably going to be hard as well.

So reluctantly, I pushed the bike around to Cycletreads this morning (puff puff!) and spoke to Andrew. They are going to take the sump off for me and send it away to an engineering company in Albany. He's warned me that my model of my bike has a habit of cracking the case where the sump plug goes when the sump plug is overtightened, and they wont be able to see if it is cracked till they take off the sump. If it is cracked then its going to need to be welded up before a helicoil can be put in. And the cost of getting it welded and having a helicoil put in is almost the same cost as getting a brand new sump.
Hopefully it will just need the helicoil.

So it looks like the bike could be off the road anywhere from 2 to 6 weeks. I hope I get it back in time for the AMCC trackday on the 17th. Worst case I guess I'll relinquish my spot so someone else can have it, and go help the marshals.

I was going to get Cycletreads to do my next service, as it is a bit of a major. So while they have the bike in lots of bits getting the sump off I've decided to get that next service done early (since that involves taking the bike to bits anyway).


And you know the absolute worst? I forgot to put the beers I bought yesterday in the fridge. Now I have warm Steinlager Pure to console my misery. Warm beer. Really.

I think most of us can forgive the stripped sump plug (it happens to the best of us from time to time) but warm beer?

You need rooting.

[gatch]

2-6 weeks !

What the fuck are they going to be doing ! Unless they are absolutely run off their feet, should only take a few hours, unless they snap all your extractor bolts as well..

[p.dath]

2-6 weeks !

What the fuck are they going to be doing ! Unless they are absolutely run off their feet, should only take a few hours, unless they snap all your extractor bolts as well..

If the sump needs welding, then it will become cheaper to buy a new sump. If there are not in stock in NZ then it will have to come ex-Japan. Hence worst case, 6 weeks.

[The Stranger:Me]

Striped my sump plug today.

Fricken noobs!
Leave the techy stuff like undoing bolts to the experts.

[hayd3n]

question have you tried a longer bolt?>>>>>>>>>>>>>???

[p.dath]

question have you tried a longer bolt?>>>>>>>>>>>>>???

Only to verify that the sump thread seemed ot be okay. The sump thread is not sufficiently "long" enough to take a bolt much longer than the original.

[LBD]

That's what I always do for sump bungs. A ratchet set to loosen so you can't go wrong. And a torque wrench for doing it up again.

Yeh...but ratchets work both ways...now which way?

Don't helicoil - go up to the next nearest size where the ID is sufficient to clear the OD of the existing thread.

This is by far the best and easiest option. (Assuming it is not cracked).... Get the next size up diameter plug and a tap to suit. And a block of dripping..? Push a good amount of the dripping into the hole, say egg cup full or so.. Sit old plug in hole and heat gently for a few moments with a cig lighter to melt the dripping, then cool with a cold wet cloth. Remove the plug and you should have a dam of dripping. Tap the hole out to new size, then use cig lighter to melt the dripping which will carry out the cuttings as it melts. (Does not work well on a hot day)


Now...bare with me....Is it a socket or an allen key plug and what size socket or allen key fits?

Someone mentioned Pom in the thread when discussing your other drama....warm beer. If you are a Pom then that explains everything....down under evrything turns the other way....and jap bikes are built in the northern hemisphere with thread directions to confuse down under lads...

[dipshit]

If the sump needs welding, then it will become cheaper to buy a new sump. If there are not in stock in NZ then it will have to come ex-Japan. Hence worst case, 6 weeks.

And don't let NZ dealers rip you off either. Compare their price with getting one from the US... http://www.mrcycles.com/fiche_sectio...2000&fveh=3049 ($119 USD)