Road not track people

[nodrog:Me]

So what do us chicks do? Compare cup size?

remember, 2 girls can share 1 cup.

[yungatart]

I would hazard a guess that one of you or another member of this forum will be dead in the next few months due to road riding behaviour, Im hoping that I dont you and I prefer that it wasnt going to happen at all, my question to you "future dead rider" is what can you do now to stop this happening??

so whats your answer ?

i don't ride any different in January to how I ride in June.....always be aware, observant , relaxed and looking ahead.
But then I'm a nana rider anyway, pretty cautious by nature.

[shrub]

Group rides suck arse, people seem very slow to figure that out.

I agree entirely. I went on the KB Wednesday night ride for the first time last week and turned back after about 10 ks because I wanted to make it home in one piece. The problem wasn't speed - in fact we were nanaing along. The problem was with poor road positioning, sudden changes of speed (slowing down and speeding up) and worst of all closing in on my gap. I like plenty of room between me and anything solid like a bike, and I had people up my arse, cutting in front of me and trying to ride beside me.

Personally I can't see the attraction of being surrounded by dozens of other riders - you spend all your time watching the riders around you, you're forced to ride at someone elses pace and statistically you're much more likely to have an off on a group ride. I have a few mates I ride with or I ride alone and the best rides I've done have frequently been solo.

[Grubber]

I've done the Harley Group ride of 40 plus bikes and I've done the 8 or 10 riders i know well in a group. The larger ride was the one i could do without. Too many would be slow and right up ya date and others would be trying to show the slow ones how inadequate they were. Recipe for disaster! The ride with 8 or so bikes of people i know well, was far better ride. Felt safe all day even though the pace was far more than it was in the larger group. My choices....1)small group of people i know 2) By myself.

[sidecar bob]

The simple rule is, never ride with someone you wouldnt pillion.
Of all the people ive ridden with, the easiest, safest & most predictable was a late 30's female with an old bike.
It was like riding with another one of me.

[2wheeldrifter]

A group can be defined as two or more......


its all good then, as I have no friends to ride with does that mean I will never crash and burn? lol

[crazyhorse]

A group can be defined as two or more......


its all good then, as I have no friends to ride with does that mean I will never crash and burn? lol

You rode with us???? .................. my, how quickly you forgot!

[2wheeldrifter]

You rode with us???? .................. my, how quickly you forgot!

I know I know.... and we lived to tell about it !!!

spank me next time you ride me......mean with me

[crazyhorse]

I know I know.... and we lived to tell about it !!!

spank me next time you ride me......mean with me

ALright, I will - spank you, I mean. Maybe a while till I ride with you again.... but that sure was a great ride around Lake Taupo.

[2wheeldrifter]

ALright, I will - spank you, I mean. Maybe a while till I ride with you again.... but that sure was a great ride around Lake Taupo.

It was indeed a great ride! I didn't know we had gone around the lake!! to busy looking at the rear of someones bike!!!!!

[HenryDorsetCase]

Personally I can't see the attraction of being surrounded by dozens of other riders - you spend all your time watching the riders around you, you're forced to ride at someone elses pace and statistically you're much more likely to have an off on a group ride. I have a few mates I ride with or I ride alone and the best rides I've done have frequently been solo.

Agreed. 10 characters.

[crazyhorse]

It was indeed a great ride! I didn't know we had gone around the lake!! to busy looking at the rear of someones bike!!!!!

I know you were just trying to keep up. Lucky we were a small group, and considerate of the slower riders present

[Miscreant]

Personally I can't see the attraction of being surrounded by dozens of other riders - you spend all your time watching the riders around you, you're forced to ride at someone elses pace and statistically you're much more likely to have an off on a group ride.

You have statistics for this? Cool, please share.

[Squiggles]

You have statistics for this? Cool, please share.

Is that denial i hear?

[shrub]

You have statistics for this? Cool, please share.

Certainly. In both the MAIDS study in Europe (http://www.maids-study.eu/pdf/MAIDS2.pdf) and the OTS (http://www.maids-study.eu/pdf/OTS_MAIDS_comparison.pdf) study in the UK group riding was identified as increasing the risk of experiencing serious injury or fatality by 18% (MAIDS) and 22% (OTS). The two studies showed that where an accident occurred in a group the main factors that caused the accident were:
1. Rider inattention. This was usually where the rider was too busy focussing on the other riders and missed a hazard and vice versa
2. Riding too close - not allowing a rider room to move through riding too close was the second biggest cause
3. Competition - riders riding outside of their skill level

I suggest you read the reports, they're fascinating and while the OTS report is more aligned to the NZ experience because MAIDS is skewed by the large number of scooter riders in Europe, they both point out some key issues that affect motorcycle safety.