The joys of doing a runner

[ItsTheHamma]

But my point is... why should that be the reality? Why do so many people persecute the Police for not doing their job, and then also persecute them FOR doing their job. You cant moan about the cops not catching crooks and then moan about them chasing crooks. Seriously screwed up! I might even be growing an ulcer over this!

yep exactly you are right. My sister got killed by a drunk driver when she was aged 31, the Police only can do their best, it wasn't the cops faullt. The guy that did it is out of prison and has already been caught drink driving again....what a disgrace!!!!

[peasea]

yep exactly you are right. My sister got killed by a drunk driver when she was aged 31, the Police only can do their best, it wasn't the cops faullt. The guy that did it is out of prison and has already been caught drink driving again....what a disgrace!!!!

Well, he probably needs to go back in then doesn't he? It is a disgrace, that's quite right, and I'm willing to bet he only served half his sentence, right? No, that's not any cops fault, it's the drunk's fault in the first instance. Others might point fingers at the Corrections Dept but ultimately it's the drunk's doing and he needs to pay a price. If automobiles were treated as guns (ie; lethal weapons) then killing someone with an automobile would result in stiffer penalties, hopefully, and especially when alcohol is involved.

[scumdog]

I like the other one... "The man, who has been charged with reckless driving, finally came to a stop when he tried to overtake another slow moving police car, and smashed into the back of it."

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post...e-motorcyclist

The KB rules are:
If the rider crashes/dies while being chased for doing nothing wrong (other than speeding - cos that ain't wrong apparently) then the rabid motormouths of KB let rip with their deadly keyboards (At times I suspect it's just to entertain me)

If the rider crashes/dies and has done something more serious? - not a cheep from said motormouths.

Cuts the posts in half y'see.

[onearmedbandit]

From what I've gathered hitting someone with a car in America is considered assualt with a deadly weapon.

[scumdog]

From what I've gathered hitting someone with a car in America is considered assualt with a deadly weapon.

And if anyone gets killed or injured (Police included) during the pursuit the person being pursued is held liable - vehicular manslaughter or higher charge..

[pritch]

I was explained to me once that in the US of A some/many/most states have it that if you kill someone on the way to committing a felony, while committing a felony, or leaving the scene of a felony, the charge must be first degree murder.

While the first part of that strikes me as rather impractical, there have been occasions in this country when I have felt such a law would be an improvement. For instance when someone has been killed during a burglary or robbery the lawyers start with, "But he didn't really intend to kill him."
Who cares? He's dead. Lock the crim up and toss the key.

[SixPackBack]

From what I've gathered hitting someone with a car in America is considered assualt with a deadly weapon.

Holding up the USA as a bastion of justice and/or common sense is laughable.

[scumdog]

Holding up the USA as a bastion of justice and/or common sense is laughable.

So...where would YOU hold up as a gleaming icon and bastion of justice?

Uganda?

[MD]

This incident raises some strange questions. Why on earth would a rider that, as far as we have heard in the media, had a clean history, do such a stupid runner? What we have heard so far was a simple "he was speeding"

Surely a few demerits, even enough to tip him over the magic 100 wouldn't drive a sane person to do 150kph through main road Johnsonville at any time, let alone 4.25pm week day. For all my past sins I totally accept that the real speed IS and SHOULD be between 35 to 50kph through J/viille shopping central.

The second weird thing is that he had gotten away. So why did he ride flat out over a bank on a dead end road?

Being an out of towner he wouldn't have realised that he had entered a part of Newlands with only two exits roads and he was actually trapped by the Cops. But he would have realised that the cops were not on his tail anymore. So why ride off a dead end road at speed? For those that don't know the "park"he landed on was a rubbish tip at the bottom of a gully not that many years ago.

Oh and those trying to blame the cops and saying, oh thay claim to have ceased chasing, it's their fault, get real. Any dick that does above 70kph down that stretch of J/ville deserves to be pursued and caught. Bloody insane behaviour with a probabilty of killing someone about the same as the chance of wind in Wellington.

To try and blame the Cops is ridiculous. He did a runner like many have before. I can understand that subject to time and place i.e. when he was on the motorway. The difference is he put untold people at risk by turning off into Burbs central where you expect traffic to be crawling, not doing 70kph, not 100kph, and certainly not 150kph. He must have realised that he had a high chance of having to run three reds lights as he approached them!

Just weird? Will be interesting to hear what circumstances come out in time e.g. was he high as a kite

[pritch]

Holding up the USA as a bastion of justice and/or common sense is laughable.

Fair enough, but they don't get everything wrong.

[onearmedbandit]

Holding up the USA as a bastion of justice and/or common sense is laughable.

Ah yeah, cos that's exactly what I was doing. Yep, holding up the USA as a bastion...

I think you read a little too much into my post there spb.

[SixPackBack]

Ah yeah, cos that's exactly what I was doing. Yep, holding up the USA as a bastion...

I think you read a little too much into my post there spb.

Nope just quoting a fact. Your post was a convenient handle to hang it off and nothing more.

The yanks have a law and order system that is overtly aggressive, and naturally breeds further aggression. The states record of homicide involving guns is beyond compare in the western world, proof positive that neither their police or justice system are performing their collective primary duty.

[scumdog]

Nope just quoting a fact. Your post was a convenient handle to hang it off and nothing more.

The yanks have a law and order system that is overtly aggressive, and naturally breeds further aggression. The states record of homicide involving guns is beyond compare in the western world, proof positive that neither their police or justice system are performing their collective primary duty.

NZ is pretty up there with it's homicide rate - and a lot of the times guns are not used.....well you don't have to on a baby, do you?

[Lucy]

From what I've gathered hitting someone with a car in America is considered assualt with a deadly weapon.

In India you are quite likely to get bashed to death by upset bystanders if you hit someone with a vehicle. Check out youtube for some amazing intersection driving 'madness'. (quote marks cos it looks mad, but no-one gets hit)

[peasea]

the rabid motormouths of KB let rip with their deadly keyboards (At times I suspect it's just to entertain me)

Well, you and one or two others.


I spoke to a mate in Welly today who got an account from an eye witness. Apparently the rider was going like the clappers and the cops were quite a way behind. People everywhere, kids and all, you have to wonder what snapped in the rider's head.