Highway 75 ChCh - Speed trap - Thanks and get f***ked

**yachtie10** · 2nd February 2010, 00:26

Its a sad day when people cant discuss an issue without being called a whinger

I will signal other road users cops ahead and I would hope others will return the favour some day

for those who wont its your right, but coming on here and being proud of it is pretty sad

**yachtie10** · 2nd February 2010, 00:27

And molly I agree with you about Str8 Jacket
but haven't you learned arguing with a women is pointless

**Str8 Jacket** · 2nd February 2010, 05:42

Originally Posted by yachtie10

And molly I agree with you about Str8 Jacket
but haven't you learned arguing with a women is pointless

I have a fresh box of tissues here. If you PM me your address I shall post them too you.

**PrincessBandit** · 2nd February 2010, 06:59

Originally Posted by Molly

.... just ONE biker took the trouble to warn me about the speed trap I was about to hit...

So, a big thanks to that rider (Ducati I think) and a huge GET F***ED to the rest of them.

So was the "trap" simply a cop with a laser/ camera or one of the following: (in smoky's post)...

Originally Posted by smoky

Why do we have a speed limit?
Honestly, why; I mean the idea, the spirit in which the law was scribed and adopted, was so we can all travel around and get to where we're wanting to get to in an orderly fashion, with out endangering others.

the rules were made to enforce the rights of others and protect road users, pedestrians and so on.
However our pathetic nanny state has trained and incentivised neolithic power hungry pricks and given them some false sense of moral crusade to save us from our selves. It's all part of controlling and repressing the masses to conform under a blanket of socialistic moral ideology. The traffic police have lost sight of the spirit of the law, have forgotten they are servants of the public, and become a tool of the power mongers, they police and entrap way past the spirit of the law to a level that brings scorn, and a feeling of miss-aligned justice. Especially considering the number of outstanding crimes, un-investigated crimes, police corruption, and revenue gathering tactics. The wankers who practice such things as 'fishing' at the end of passing lanes, change of speed zones, free flowing motorway traffic ........ bla bla bla
They turn a blind eye to the real causes, to the real problems on the roads and continue to defend their pathtic blind policies.

The sooner some of you wankers on here wake up to the repression and delusion of safety you hold on to the better;
Speed kills? But think about the lack of good roads, poor intersections, old unregistered un warranted vehicles, huge trucks blocking the pathetic narrow roads we call state highways, lack of overtaking lanes, lack of duel carriage ways, drunk drivers, road works that leave death traps for drivers, lack of public transport, how easy it is to get a drivers licences here, just look at the lack of willingness to even discuss the cheese cutter issue. Riding today after all the rain here - I have noticed how many lifestyle blocks have poorly designed driveways where all the dirt and gravel is washed of their drive onto the road, a problem for traffic - do you think they give a toss about it?
Instead they put more and more double yellows/no overtaking lines on the roads, expand 70 & 80 K speed limits out further and further, and pester more motorists - ranting about speed kills.

Now those are what I call "traps". Btw, other good points there smoky in the paragraph above.

Originally Posted by onearmedbandit

.... I asked my father one day why cars where flashing their headlights at us, and he explained the 'code'.

Sorry, but that made me lol - Pirates of the Carburetor perhaps? The code my boy, aye, the code...

Originally Posted by yachtie10

Its a sad day when people cant discuss an issue without being called a whinger
........................

for those who wont its your right, but coming on here and being proud of it is pretty sad

I agree completely with your first sentence, I don't with the last. Of course it's my right to "signal or not" when I'm driving or riding. Quite frankly if I choose to speed I don't concern myself with whether or not someone else will save my arse - that's for me to do (or pay up). I am proud of the way I ride and the things I have learnt since getting on two wheels; it has made me a better car driver as well. So. LOUD AND PROUD! (in caps, just in case you missed it).

**shrub** · 2nd February 2010, 07:03

but it's the problem that gets the biggest push because it's easy to identify "offenders", easy to police and easy to collect buckets of dosh from.

Meanwhile the biggest cause of crashes, driver inattention, continues unabated and ignored.

BTW, I regularly get flashed about tax traps, usually by cars.

**Berries** · 2nd February 2010, 07:08

Originally Posted by Ixion

This has been the Biker Code for over half a century, and is as valid today as ever.

Can you post a link, I can’t find it at Whitcoulls.

**PrincessBandit** · 2nd February 2010, 07:36

Oh, just to clarify, of course I would warn other road users of danger on the road such as a washout, fallen debris, an accident etc.

**Mikkel** · 2nd February 2010, 09:52

Originally Posted by smoky

I would not totally agree with that; I don't think they deserve ALL the punishment that they receive, but the punishment should fit the crime and serve as a deterrent to further errant behavior.

Ok, maybe I need to clarify. To me the crime has not so much to do with what damage that may or may not occur as a result - it has merely to do with behaviour which reflects a blatant disregard, a complete and utter lack of respect, for other people, their health, their loved ones and their property. People who behave in such a manner are deserving of a long fall with a short stop. However, it is not my position to judge and meter out punishment - nor would I ever want it to be.

Even if we did away with that despicable attitude, shit will still happen. However, I've always been happy to forgive and move on from accidents and misunderstandings - provided that everyone involved face up to their responsibilities. So far I've been fortunate enough not to have to deal with any, excuse the metaphor, runners.

**smoky** · 2nd February 2010, 10:09

Originally Posted by Mikkel

......However, it is not my position to judge and meter out punishment - nor would I ever want it to be.

I'd have a go at it - lets have some common sense for a change

Originally Posted by Mikkel

Even if we did away with that despicable attitude, shit will still happen. However, I've always been happy to forgive and move on from accidents and misunderstandings - provided that everyone involved face up to their responsibilities.

There's another point - a couple of vehicles collide/crash have an accident, the cops turn up, generally some one was in the wrong, is feeling rather upset and embarrassed, or even injured, has lost their vehicle or bike - I have never quite understood why the police feel the need to then issue an infringement notice! It's just pissing people off, the poor bastard is embarrassed, learnt their lesson, lost their no claims bonus and has to pay one or more excesses for insurance (if they had any) - but our police have this F###in wanky policy of issuing a ticket????? Bunch of tossers

**Mikkel** · 2nd February 2010, 10:19

Originally Posted by smoky

There's another point - a couple of vehicles collide/crash have an accident, the cops turn up, generally some one was in the wrong, is feeling rather upset and embarrassed, or even injured, has lost their vehicle or bike - I have never quite understood why the police feel the need to then issue an infringement notice! It's just pissing people off, the poor bastard is embarrassed, learnt their lesson, lost their no claims bonus and has to pay one or more excesses for insurance (if they had any) - but our police have this F###in wanky policy of issuing a ticket????? Bunch of tossers

I agree completely. If no-one is hurt and no-one is being unreasonable - no reason to call in the fuzz. If the other fella is unreasonable and starts to demand acceptance of liability or some other shit like that, well - then it's a different matter. If anyone is hurt - significantly - and you need an ambulance at the scene, then there's no way around it I'm afraid.

Just leave it with the insurance companies to sort out. Not having to spend your time dealing with the details of shit like that is one of the services you are paying for. I do suppose that if an officer writes out a notice, that will make the case less muddy if liability is contested at a later stage.

**Big Dave** · 2nd February 2010, 10:32

>>why the police feel the need to then issue an infringement notice!<<

Because the moron deserves it.

**yachtie10** · 2nd February 2010, 11:05

Originally Posted by Str8 Jacket

I have a fresh box of tissues here. If you PM me your address I shall post them too you.

gee thats almost as clever as "whatever"
but you go ahead and have the last word

**smoky** · 2nd February 2010, 11:40

Originally Posted by Big Dave

Because the moron deserves it.

Depends - a friend who came off in the wet, lost his front wheel, no one around, didn't hit anyone else, just bad luck and a rough road in the wet, the bike was totalled, he was injured a little, ambo called, cop turns up - starts trying to find a reason to issue a ticket - after a few months they dropped the case, but only after their own accident investigator told them it was more likely the poor condition of the road was the main contributor.

**Big Dave** · 2nd February 2010, 11:44

Aren't we were talking about the 'Morans' who run into other people's cars in their car. All biker are genius.

**SPman** · 2nd February 2010, 14:41

Originally Posted by Mikkel

You are correct. The real issue is that, these days, the law is being interpreted as a carte blanche to hand out fines and jail terms instead of its actual purpose. The first and only purpose of the law is to protect the citizens against unlawful and accidental damage to themselves or their property. It is a tool, the purpose of which is, to visit just punishment upon the wicked. It is not an excuse to dictate to people how they should live their lives, nor is it intended to facilitate revenue gathering.
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There is a saying - "Laws are written for the guidance of wise men and the slavish obedience of fools!"
Guess the fools are in charge.........