Getting fired

[crazyhorse]

Especially, as an employee, if they know you have access to good legal advice.

Exactly!

[Latte]

Yeah I guess you're right.

We have had more trouble getting rid of a thief that we caught, than a thief that we didn't. I guess my point is if you are willing to jump through the hoops you can get rid of people for "minor" issues (although to warrant this effort in our case this person was costing us thousands a month, which we could never prove or use as a reason).

[/hijack] Sorry, this is actually about smokeu, dude get some advice/representation. The holiday pay is yours , don't let it go.

[GOONR]

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[/hijack] Sorry, this is actually about smokeu, dude get some advice/representation. The holiday pay is yours , don't let it go.

He will get advice, I can only ask my friend hypothetical questions (otherwise a large bill could be produced) but if the facts are on the table (via PM) it will be a bloody good start and enough for his employers to sit up and think twice..

[Iggy]

I get on quite well with my manager and I know that she likes having me as an employee. She would not try to terminate my contract. It's the store manager that is using any possible excuse to get rid of me.

There's your answer.........sweet talk to the manager to sack the store manager for not treating employees fairly and not following correct procedures............good luck with whatever works out for you

[TimeOut]

Sometimes its easier to hope that the employee hates it at work bad enough that they will be the one who opts to leave and then wholla...... problem solved

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i have found it is easyer to get people to leave, give them shit jobs and be on there back, then to fire some one.

Beat me too it

Constructive dismissal

[tri boy]

Constructive dismissal

No, just reality.

[Shadows]

Not only do they have to pay you all of your outstandng and accrued holiday pay, but they must also treat that leave as if you took it from your finish date - if any statutory holidays fall in that period (between when you left and when your leave would have run out) they must pay you for those as well.

[quickbuck]

Not only do they have to pay you all of your outstandng and accrued holiday pay, but they must also treat that leave as if you took it from your finish date - if any statutory holidays fall in that period (between when you left and when your leave would have run out) they must pay you for those as well.

So, if you can hold off until closer to Easter.....

[CookMySock]

Heh, ask for that in writing.

No no, never ask for anything in writing. If they can't put it writing that's their failure, not yours. Don't remind them or prompt it.

No reminders in writing is time up your sleeve for you.

Seriously though, don't you like working for these guys?

Steve

[avgas]

Move on buddy. There is no point working for a company that doesn't want you. Unless your a masochist

[SPman]

Exactly. The official "You're Fired" almost only exist on the TV Program. I once had a colleague (didn't like him very much) who stole promotional stuffs and still didn't end up getting fired. Walked away with only simple warning.

What - you haven't had the 3.30pm friday, walk into the office and a "please collect all your stuff and don't come in Monday", at the end of the financial year, experience?
It's fun, believe me. Normally carried out by paranoid bosses who think so little of their employees, they think they would create mayhem if they gave them more than 2 minutes advance warning. It's possible to make them feel like bigger pricks than they actually are, with a few well chosen, quiet words......

[crazyhorse]

I'm probably about to get fired from my job. Does my employer have to give me my full holiday pay upon dismissal?

SO? How was the work place today? did you get fired, or still employed.....?

[SMOKEU]

SO? How was the work place today? did you get fired, or still employed.....?

I never work Mondays. I'll find out in the next few days and keep you posted.

[Skyryder]

Cheers. I got told by my manager that the store manager wants me gone because I gave insufficent notice about wanting my shifts reduced for reasons beyond by reasonable control.

I gather you have an employment contract. Take a look and see what is says about your emplyoyer altering your hours of work or conditions. Most will give them this right as it is usually standard practice for a varietyof reasons.

However you state that you want your shifts 'reduced' and he/she has refused. Has this been allowed in the past with other emplyoyers?? If so start a PG. This will prevent you from being fired and may help to resove your dilemma. If you believe that you have grounds on the basis of events outside of your control you could still do the PG thing. There is of course no guarantee that you will win but at the worst you can not be fired once the process has been started..

From today start keeping diary and write down all details that my come in usefull for bargaining. Diary and records win arguements. just don't tell anyone that you are keeping one. Surprise is next best weapon to facts.


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Skyryder

[Donor]

I get on quite well with my manager and I know that she likes having me as an employee. She would not try to terminate my contract. It's the store manager that is using any possible excuse to get rid of me.

There's your answer.........sweet talk to the manager to sack the store manager for not treating employees fairly and not following correct procedures............good luck with whatever works out for you

Two magic things:

1) Talk to the big boss lady, mention you will be filing a PERSONAL GRIEVANCE

...when she asks why...

2) Tell her it's regarding your fears for your job due to the belief your manager is engaging in a CONSTRUCTIVE DISMISSAL

Works wonders

As others have said, record EVERYTHING, make sure all meetings you have a support person present and most importantly keep your professionalism, let the employer make the mistakes.