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    Quote Originally Posted by firefighter View Post

    Whilst on the subject, just a question for those of you out there that do drive..........

    Q. When should you drive with your parklights on?


    A. The answer is in the question, all the way on or all the way off, fucken parklight drivers you are muttons. rant rant lol.
    Gee, I wonder why they're called 'park lights'?
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    Quote Originally Posted by firefighter View Post
    Oh, so during twilight, you should drive with your parklights on because cyclists do'nt possess the mental capacity to look away from car headlights? Never saw that in the road code or heard of that during any of my driver training.
    Looking to the side of the lights does not help (perhaps it's my eyes, they are pretty sensitice). It reduces the affect but does not elimitate it.

    Quote Originally Posted by firefighter View Post
    Ahhhh, yeah no shit. I'm talking about straights, where the road is dark, where vehicles blend into the road and can be hard to see.
    So am I. If the road is dark and I can't see the ROAD ahead I don't pass. This is why I don't pass at night unless the road is lit or I can do so safely in the length of my high beam

    Quote Originally Posted by firefighter View Post
    It may look clear as the car is so hard to see, and people (usually inexperienced or elderly) may decide since it's clear they can pass. Surely you have seen this happen before....or seen for yourself what looks like a clear pass, looked harder and just noticed a vehicle there?
    Now this make more sense. This may actually be a decent argument for daytime headlights. Rather than relying on other's headlights as an aid to your own passing procedures, using yours to protect yourself against idiots pulling our without being sure of what they're seeing. Ofcourse this relies on the fact that having your lights on makes you more visible to someone that's not actually looking in the first place. My own experience tells me that this is dubious at best (days when I ran without my headlight on produced no more mear misses than other days).

    Quote Originally Posted by firefighter View Post
    Wow, thanks for clearing that up, normally i'd just pull out and hope for the best.
    The way you put it you may as well be. You seem to be saying that you pass when you can't see anything approaching. I prefer to wait until I can see nothing but empty space above a clearly visible road.

    There is a big difference between "not seeing anything" and "seeing nothing". The former means that you can't see anything approaching but there still might be. The latter means that you can see the road underneath were a vehicle would be and can say with the absolute certainty of basic physics that the way is clear (unless the vehicle is invisible of course).
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMemonic View Post
    It would seem that a few companies and rental agencies have compulsory headlights on when driving. It was noticeable though that after the law was implemented it seemed a lot of cars were driving with the headlights on.
    ACC recommend owners of fleet vehicles to hard wire the lights on. There is only one local Company here in New Plymouth that I'm aware of that were doing that. I got quotes for the work for my employers but they decided they didn't want to spend the money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FROSTY View Post
    Well I'm now the VERY proud owner of a 91 vifferarrai (vfr750) which is a bloody joy to ride.

    ...car drivers were seriously going out of their way to pull over and let us pass.
    The second point is because of the quality ride, mentioned in the first point!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    Now this make more sense. This may actually be a decent argument for daytime headlights. Rather than relying on other's headlights as an aid to your own passing procedures, using yours to protect yourself against idiots pulling our without being sure of what they're seeing.
    I thought that was clear. I was'nt ever suggesting that you look for headlights and if you see nothing then go. It is only for your own protection, and to make your vehicle standout where it may otherwise be unseen. It will never stop stupid head-on collisions.

    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    The way you put it you may as well be. You seem to be saying that you pass when you can't see anything approaching.
    I dunno how I gave that impression. No, as a paid FF I have more sense than that. Jesus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FROSTY View Post
    Well I'm now the VERY proud owner of a 91 vifferarrai (vfr750) which is a bloody joy to ride.
    I'd say, "Congratulations, Mr Frost! " but without some pix, it doesn't really exist.

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    Oh and by the way - VifFerraRi is my name for my bike. You spelled it worngA and it's the wrong colour too.
    ... and that's what I think.

    Or summat.


    Or maybe not...

    Dunno really....


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    Quote Originally Posted by firefighter View Post
    I thought that was clear.
    Sorry, I didn't get a lot of sleep last week (on call for work). It probably was.

    Quote Originally Posted by firefighter View Post
    I dunno how I gave that impression. No, as a paid FF I have more sense than that. Jesus.
    Neither can I anymore. See above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vifferman View Post
    I'd say, "Congratulations, Mr Frost! " but without some pix, it doesn't really exist.

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    Oh and by the way - VifFerraRi is my name for my bike. You spelled it worngA and it's the wrong colour too.
    Yea yea yadda yadda
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    Ta!!
    ... and that's what I think.

    Or summat.


    Or maybe not...

    Dunno really....


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