Radar K band

[CookMySock]

You clearly don't pay enough attention if you have never noticed the speed camera vans parked in spots where you don't see them until you are right on top of them (so to speak). I got a ticket on the southern motorway where the van couldn't be seen until it was too late to slow down - they clearly pick spots where that happens.

um, dood, I think it's you who needs to pay more attention if you can't see speed camera vans. Seriously you can see them a long time before they can see you. Perhaps you need a few more fines.

Steve

[Arronduke]

I turn K off... use my eyes and it seems to work.

[MarkH]

um, dood, I think it's you who needs to pay more attention if you can't see speed camera vans. Seriously you can see them a long time before they can see you. Perhaps you need a few more fines.

How can you see a van behind a tree a long time before they can see you? Did you not get that was what I was talking about? There are trees all along the sides of the motorway and they park the van in between a couple of trees so that you can't see them until they are about to take a photo - I'm talking less that a second from when you can see them until they take the picture. If you haven't seen any speed camera vehicles 'hiding' like that then you probably passed them without noticing they were there - I seriously doubt that the behavior I see in Auckland isn't repeated elsewhere.

I haven't had any fines for a while though because I sold my car.

[scumdog]

"Just because ya can't see the danger doesn't mean it ain't there" That applied when sabre-tooths were around and applies with lots of thing to this day.

(Try overtaking on blind crests often enough and the 'danger' will get you one day....)

[grusomhat]

How can you see a van behind a tree a long time before they can see you? Did you not get that was what I was talking about? There are trees all along the sides of the motorway and they park the van in between a couple of trees so that you can't see them until they are about to take a photo - I'm talking less that a second from when you can see them until they take the picture. If you haven't seen any speed camera vehicles 'hiding' like that then you probably passed them without noticing they were there - I seriously doubt that the behavior I see in Auckland isn't repeated elsewhere.

I haven't had any fines for a while though because I sold my car.

Any if you pay those fines then you are a sucker. The cops aren't allowed to be hidden unless they are targetting a specific person.

[Southmotian]

It was a couple of years ago but I emailed NZ Police and they confirmed all x and k had been phased out, KA and laser were in use and they were looking to trial POP-KA. I'd just turn x & k off and you should be good.

Things must have changed with camera vans because when I used a detector regularly (up until about a year ago) they were all KA, just very weak and highly directional KA.

I have x50 too, best bang for buck I reckon

[CookMySock]

How can you see a van behind a tree a long time before they can see you?

After ten or twenty thousand hours driving, you get the hang of it, and after forty thousand hours you can smell them.

Steve

[TerminalAddict]

I'm happily ignoring all the bullshit in this thread .. bah STFU

I read somewhere (maybe all knowing ixion ?!?!?) that the vans were now using K band.

I turned K band on today, and have now turned it off .....
In town (with a screamer) it is embarrassingly annoying. so K band gets turned off again

[MarkH]

Any if you pay those fines then you are a sucker. The cops aren't allowed to be hidden unless they are targetting a specific person.

Is this true or just something you made up? I have often seen the speed camera vehicles parked like that - and I don't know if you could claim they were hidden when they parked in plain sight, just not visible until you were within a hundred metres or so of them.

[roogazza]

Laser = on.
Ka = on.
K = on.

A detector is for detecting.

That's what i have switched on. Athough vans are now on K band you can still locate them, signal is less.
For those with V1 , make sure you have the latest software installed, this can be checked via the manual. Gaz.

ps or if you are like Dangerousbastard, you can rely on your cryptonite !

[CookMySock]

ps or if you are like Dangerousbastard, you can rely on your cryptonite !

It isn't that. The problem is if you leave K band on, it cries wolf all the time and you get used to not reacting. Half of the problem with detectors is, responding quickly to them, so for me leaving K band on makes the problem worse.

Steve

[pzkpfw]

Drones... http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3306...fool-motorists ?

[grusomhat]

Is this true or just something you made up? I have often seen the speed camera vehicles parked like that - and I don't know if you could claim they were hidden when they parked in plain sight, just not visible until you were within a hundred metres or so of them.

There was a bit more to it that I first said, and I guess the definition of "overt" is up to debate however here's the guidelines

# All speed measuring devices are to be operated in an overt manner. Hidden or camouflaged deployment is not to be used unless there is a specific operation targeting offending consisting of:
# Sustained loss of traction; or
# Engaging in an unauthorised street or drag race; or
# Dangerous or reckless driving.
# The operation cannot effectively or safely be conducted using overt means.
# Such operations must be recorded by way of written operation order and pre-approved in writing by the district road policing manager.

Source: http://www.police.govt.nz/sites/defa...nforcement.pdf

[Pixie]

Yep. Turn K band off. You are better served to tune your eyes for K band and leave the detector to look after the much more hazardous and invisible Ka band. All fixed automatic cameras are in plain view, and three quarters of Ka band stuff is not, and it has an often very experienced operator behind it who with great levels of glee can pick you out some km away.

Steve

Fixed cameras don't use microwave

[MarkH]

There was a bit more to it that I first said, and I guess the definition of "overt" is up to debate

That's the thing - the speed camera vehicles are positioned in plain sight - you tend to see them as you go passed. I believe at one time they used a camera that was practically out of sight - you would be lucky to see the lens in the bushes (or whatever). But to be 'overt' do they have to have the speed camera visible for more than x distance before you get to it? Or does it just have to be plainly seen as you go passed it?