Speeding cops

[grusomhat]

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Since 2003, 24 people were killed and 91 seriously injured in police pursuits.

Does that include the pursued?

[Mudfart]

Police are only permitted to respond to ANY emergency at a maximum speed of 40 kmph above the posted speed limit for the area.
Although this changes if its say middle of the night on the motorway, they can go upto 180kph.
Do not forget, political correctness has affected us all (for the worse, mostly), and it has leeched its way into lawmaking, yes even for police themselves. Just as religion leeched its way into some really really stupid laws being made, over the last 800 years or so.

[firefighter]

especially if the request to be on scene has come from another emergency service.

Actually, that's when they take the longest to get anywhere.

[firefighter]

Especially with the loud siren and lights telling you to get the fuck outta the way!

In fact what concerns me more is the lazy indifference with which New Zealanders get out of the way of any emergency services vehicle. When i see them coming im on the side of the road straight away, not when it suits me! So many times ive seen them have to pass people at a crawl because they simply refuse to move over far or fast enough.

Thanks, your the only one of the 10% that do! Some people have real beef with pulling to the side.

They also cant pass on the left apparently. Any Emergancy serivce. Its what my Police buddy and ambo buddy said, not sure about firefighters.

They also say the most annoying this is fuck nobs with there sounds so loud the can't hear the sirens and they get stuck behind them for ages.

Yeah ya can. Been over a curb or three before.

[oldrider]

Six consecutive posts in a "troll" thread, aren't we getting a little bit emotionally involved here?

[firefighter]

Actually you will find the law states that they are not allowed to go above the speed limit...

I'm assuming you're taking the piss?

[firefighter]

Ha, if by extensive training you mean a week long fun week of racing around a purpose built track then sure. They have no extra awesome driving skills then what we do.

And if thats the case, why cant v8 super car drivers, rally drivers and so on go speeding everywhere?

"And if thats the case, why cant v8 super car drivers, rally drivers and so on go speeding everywhere?"

Mwahahahahaha!!!!!! Read that again then uppercut yourself.

Where is this track bro?

[kwaka_crasher]

True, so unless you're deaf it should not be an issue.

Even if you are deaf it shouldn't be an issue if you're a better than half-decent driver and actually use your mirrors regularly... unless the blind are also driving now. Actually, that isn't quite so far fetched given some of the driving examples I've observed on the road in the last week.

[firefighter]

Six consecutive posts in a "troll" thread, aren't we getting a little bit emotionally involved here?

I know you were talking about Tootoot, but I know why. Multi-quoting with this new format is a real bitch.

[BoristheBiter]

Im not sure if your post in tongue in cheek or not. Police crashes have killed, and do kill regularly.

In July last year, a teenage pedestrian was killed and his friend hospitalised when they were hit by a police car. In 2008 a teenager was left in a coma when a police car hit a lamp post whch fell on him.

Last year police reported 731 crashes.

Since 2003, 24 people were killed and 91 seriously injured in police pursuits.

how many were caused by the offender?
how many pursuits each year?
how many p1 jobs dispatched?
How many were caused by people failing to get out of the way?

We can all state facts just look at ACC. at the end of the day if the police are involved in an accident they are prosocuted just like everyone else if not more.

last night they showed that tosser with the broken leg, didn't show the copper getting shot at the night before. it the public eyes they can do no right and its troll threads like this that show why.

[onearmedbandit]

Actually you will find the law states that they are not allowed to go above the speed limit...

Oh really? Best I ring the plod next time I see a speeding ambulance or fire engine. Not like they're attending an 'emergency' or anything. I suppose you think they need to stop for traffic lights and wait until they're green?

[Ronin]

Oh really? Best I ring the plod next time I see a speeding ambulance or fire engine. Not like they're attending an 'emergency' or anything. I suppose you think they need to stop for traffic lights and wait until they're green?

I thought, and I may be wrong, that they have guidelines on exceeding the limit but it has to be justifiable. In the event of an accident while exceeding the limit they can still be prosecuted.

[Insanity_rules]

Thanks, your the only one of the 10% that do! Some people have real beef with pulling to the side.

I'll bloody say!!! As an ex-fire fighter when we were K1 (proceeding to an incident) It could get pretty hairy and F-me if some people wouldn't get out of the way of a bloody fire appliance! Probably the same people who would complain we didn't get to there house fast enough.

FYI on the driver training, we had pretty intensive driver training and rather severe punishments for cocking up behind the wheel.

[onearmedbandit]

I thought, and I may be wrong, that they have guidelines on exceeding the limit but it has to be justifiable. In the event of an accident while exceeding the limit they can still be prosecuted.

I don't dispute that they guidelines/policies/procedures etc and as Insanity_rules says severe consequence if they do breach any condition. But NighthawkNZ claims it is against the law for them to do so.

[BoristheBiter]

I don't dispute that they guidelines/policies/procedures etc and as Insanity_rules says severe consequence if they do breach any condition. But NighthawkNZ claims it is against the law for them to do so.

Its a bit like lane splitting, there are times when speeding is allowd, attending job etc, and times when not, late for donuts (but it should be).
Any police/ambo/firetruck can get a speeding ticket at any time, they have to justerfy the speed they are traveling at and why.
For the police when attending jobs it is 30km over the posted speed limit.