Refuelling whilst still mounted

[Headbanger]

From a hazard identification and management perspective, In the scenario put forward of the car hitting the bike I would nominate the car as the hazard, and systems would be put in place to manage traffic flow to the pump making the situation impossible.

All the rubbish about straddling the bike and spilling petrol on your nuts is just babble if it relies on a car taking you out first. Likewise the fire, The real world occurrence is so low it doesn't rate, sure have controls in place for the event of a fire but controls in place to regulate sitting on the bike due to it being a fire hazard.Pffft.

[Berries]

sorry, hit the save button rather than "go advanced" to get the list option

try again and address all of them

I'd appear too pedantic if I did that now. Basically, people hold different views of what certain risks mean to them and you'll never change their perceptions. Nothing I read on this subject will stop me doing what I have been doing since I got a bike in the 80's. It's a habit now. The only thing that will stop it is if every garage told me to get off, but I can't see that happening as the risk, in the overall scheme of things, is so small.

[Pixie]

HMMMM--a thought --strictly for arguements sake. Biker1 sitts astride his beasty which is on its rubber clad wheels and him wearing boots with rubber soles. Biker two has METAL sidestand firmly onto concrete. Ida thought that with an electrical ground being there the likelyhood of a cuircuit was greater with stand down.

Grounding doesn't need to have anything to do with it.
You can develop a potential difference between you and the car you are driving when your clothing rubs against the synthetic seat upholstery.Then the potential equalises when you touch the metal of the car and you get a shock.You might be wearing rubber gumboots and the car is on rubber tyres but you will still get a shock.

Earlier this year there was a case of a woman who's car went up in flames on the news.So don't think it doesn't happen.

As for the few extra ml that you think you get with the bike upright.Well I got sick of weighting for my brother to argue with the gas station staff that refused to allow him fill his bike with him sitting on it.So I proved that,in the case of the 2005 Bandit 1200,there is no difference in the amount the tank will accept whether the bike is on it's sidestand or upright.

The one thing that can be said for filling the bike while astride it,is that there is less chance the rider will put the pump hose in the wrong hole.This tendency may be a problem for some of the posters on this thread.

[slowpoke]

[*]It gives you a chance to observe your surroundings - I for one have been told off for using a cellphone in a gas station forecourt because the building had no signal inside it. The attendant was giving an automated response and said it was for fire safety, but I reckon the actual rule was in place because idiots like me stand in the middle of a forecourt oblivious to our surroundings. (If you can find a single documented case of a phone starting a fire I'll buy you a beer.)

Working in the hydrocarbon industry I can tell you that I've seen a video during a safety presentation of a mobile phone triggering an explosion. It was at a gas station too, as a tanker operator used the phone in close proximity to an open tank. If you are caught with a mobile phone out in the plant on my facility it would be a sacking offence.

[motorbyclist]

Working in the hydrocarbon industry I can tell you that I've seen a video during a safety presentation of a mobile phone triggering an explosion. It was at a gas station too, as a tanker operator used the phone in close proximity to an open tank. If you are caught with a mobile phone out in the plant on my facility it would be a sacking offence.

bugger - guess I owe you a beer then!

[avgas]

I can't believe people who get off their bikes to fill up are getting so wound up about those that don't.

Yeah you people who want to prevent being harmed while somone learns the hard way. Keep your mouth shut and just avoid the idiot with the highly flamable substance......
heh

[Qkkid]

Wow, I'm a wanker.

Thanks for that.

No Hitchers a wanker for saying we are wankers

[Big Dave]

Hitchers!!!.... Hitchers!!!!

Innnnnccccoooommmiiinnnngggg!!!!!!!

[Headbanger]

Righto, The upshot of filling the bike while sitting upon it was too good to ignore, so even though it had never occurred to me before this thread I gave it a try.

And the result was 1.2 extra litres in the speed triple, Fucking fantastic, wish I had been wised up to the concept earlier.

***This just in***

While sitting on the bike I was not rear-ended, pinned under the bike, splashed with petrol or set on fire, For a split second I was convinced this was happening but it was just a seagull.

[Berries]

Unwittingly however you became a wanker :slap:

[Headbanger]

Unwittingly however you became a wanker :slap:

I dedicated my life to the dark art many moons ago......

[Skyryder]

Skyryder

[DEATH_INC.]

I still can't understand why people can't respect the wishes of the business owner/operator? Why is it such a problem? Why should he/she need a reason? Surely people haven't become THAT self centered!

[steve_t]

I still can't understand why people can't respect the wishes of the business owner/operator? Why is it such a problem? Why should he/she need a reason? Surely people haven't become THAT self centered!

Cos they believe that if they pay money, they should be able to do whatever the fuck they like

[Mikkel]

I still can't understand why people can't respect the wishes of the business owner/operator? Why is it such a problem? Why should he/she need a reason? Surely people haven't become THAT self centered!

Stupidity needs challenging whenever encountered. Plain and simple, if not contested, bullshit and political correctness will know no bounds. ...and it is already bad enough as it is.

That's not to say that I can see any real merit to sitting astride your bike while refueling. Seems like a bad idea to me, but hey I'm not going to tell you how to live your life.