Have racers gone soft?

[wharfy]

Going on Str8 Jackets logic that means you have a teacher to student ratio far superior to any other learning experience in the world!!!!!!!!!!!!

The term "special needs" springs to mind

[slowpoke]

The term "special needs" springs to mind

Haha, nicely done mate! Maybe that can be my new race team: Remedial Racing

[Str8 Jacket]

Yes .... and at most "CLUB" meetings 30 of the 35 starters in 600SP are faster than me !!!

Going on Str8 Jackets logic that means you have a teacher to student ratio far superior to any other learning experience in the world!!!!!!!!!!!!

The term "special needs" springs to mind

Mock me if you will but I was running at the back of the grid last years winter series as well and as the front runners got faster, so did we. For me it aint about winning (atm) its about learning to ride better and faster and watching my lap times fall. Hey, if you stay in the same class long enough you're surely going to end up at the pointy end eventually!!

[jellywrestler]

But we are our own worst enemy. The average club racer would rather be 6th in a club meeting than have their fragile ego bubble burst by finishing 12th in a National's event.

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So why doesn't the Vic club make the meeting on the 27/28th feb the first round of their series too? I'm sure there's nothing stopping points being awarded for both NZ Champs and another series in the same race?

[slowpoke]

So why doesn't the Vic club make the meeting on the 27/28th feb the first round of their series too? I'm sure there's nothing stopping points being awarded for both NZ Champs and another series in the same race?

Not a bad idea mate...sounds bloody good to me.

[jellywrestler]

What exactly has changed in the Nationals in the last 20 odd years, apart from decreasing numbers??
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I just looked through the 1991 NZ grand prix programme (Ruapuna)

11 formula one
6 senior production
8 125cc racing

[nzkr1]

So why doesn't the Vic club make the meeting on the 27/28th feb the first round of their series too? I'm sure there's nothing stopping points being awarded for both NZ Champs and another series in the same race?

I will be treating like any other Vic Club round seeing as they are running it. How much more different will it be??? Christ it's only the nationals, just a few more out of town riders.

[scrivy]

So why doesn't the Vic club make the meeting on the 27/28th feb the first round of their series too? I'm sure there's nothing stopping points being awarded for both NZ Champs and another series in the same race?

No different to what Wanganui and Taupo do for individual points and accummulated points for the entire Tri-Series.

[Quasievil]

I just looked through the 1991 NZ grand prix programme (Ruapuna)

11 formula one
6 senior production
8 125cc racing

So its never been a winner.....................thought it would have been sorted by now.

hilarious !!

in summary then the Nationals is for our premier riders but its NOT our premier event, and never has been?

[gixerracer]

So its never been a winner.....................thought it would have been sorted by now.

hilarious !!

in summary then the Nationals is for our premier riders but its NOT our premier event, and never has been?

only because the modern day club racer seems to be not interested in doing the nats if the people supported the series it would be fucken Orsum ask any of the guys that had there first crack at it in the last two seasons they learned shit loads and had a ball

[Nonbeliever]

why people cant see that is beyond me, but this is only my opinion which dont count for much lol

thats true

close racing, thats what people want to see

[KS34]

Mock me if you will but I was running at the back of the grid last years winter series as well and as the front runners got faster, so did we. For me it aint about winning (atm) its about learning to ride better and faster and watching my lap times fall. Hey, if you stay in the same class long enough you're surely going to end up at the pointy end eventually!!

Not taking the piss Helen I agree seeing the cup half full not half empty.. then Wharfy provided a great reply.

only because the modern day club racer seems to be not interested in doing the nats if the people supported the series it would be fucken Orsum ask any of the guys that had there first crack at it in the last two seasons they learned shit loads and had a ball

I agree 100%

[Str8 Jacket]

Not taking the piss Helen I agree seeing the cup half full not half empty.. then Wharfy provided a great reply.

You know how sensitive I am..!

[Whitebait]

only because the modern day club racer seems to be not interested in doing the nats if the people supported the series it would be fucken Orsum ask any of the guys that had there first crack at it in the last two seasons they learned shit loads and had a ball

My first National round was manfeild last year and I had a ripper of a time! had to up my game to keep up with Duncan on his SV.

I went 2 seconds faster over the space of a weekend due to how much time you get on the track and got to watch some fantastic racing.

[lostinflyz]

My first National round was manfeild last year and I had a ripper of a time! had to up my game to keep up with Duncan on his SV.

I went 2 seconds faster over the space of a weekend due to how much time you get on the track and got to watch some fantastic racing.

yep. same here. i was over 4 seconds faster at levels, a second faster a ruapuna (one days dry time) and 2 secs. faster at invercargill. And i decided it was that much fun im heading north for the final round.

do it once, do it proper and youll be hooked i say.