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    I think it's quite reasonable for the government not to rush to the aid of a Kiwi who has broken international law. Yes, pure theatre on both parts but it will be interesting to see how it plays out.
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    vote the greens, they were the guys that wanted to send a NZ "Navy frigate" to sink a whaler a couple of years back
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    I bet those Greenpeace fuckwits got rejected by Al Qaeda when they applied to join so they decided to start their own terrorist organization. Who knows, they might attack a slaugher house next or your local McDonalds restraunt procaiming "save the cows" or other such activity. Some people go to great lengths to seek attention don't they?

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    There's only one solution to this. Wankers should get their own country.
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    It was an act of piracy.
    Take the consequences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oakie View Post
    I think it's quite reasonable for the government not to rush to the aid of a Kiwi who has broken international law. Yes, pure theatre on both parts but it will be interesting to see how it plays out.

    It is never right to abandon a fellow countryman for whatever reason. Giving aid and assistance is not condoning their actions. Would you abandon a fellow biker if he broke the law and crashed as a result? There is a fundamental flaw in this country and that is that we support our fellow kiwi’s only if we agree with them. Otherwise they can go to hell.


    As to how this plays out.


    It’s a foregone conclusion.

    Sea Shepherd’s reasoning for their action on this, is that Key never made a satisfactory response as Prime Minister for the ramming of a NZ registered vessel by the Japanese. Essentially a vessel registered in a country becomes subject to it’s laws and has that country’s protection. In this Key failed in every area of diplomacy. McCully simply does not count.

    By blaming Key, Sea Shepherd have ensured that the incident is kept alive and in the International publics eye. The fact of the matter, regardless of the position one takes concerning the ramming, Key’s response was less than satisfactory and bordered on the dithering. Now that there has been a boarding, and blaming Key’s lack of response, for it, Key is now forced to take the international stage on this issue to counter Sea Shepherd’s position. There is simply no way that Japan will put Peter Bethune on trial that would allow and international/media frenzy showing Key in a poor light. Key will perform as instructed by his mentor, Japan in a face saving move will release Bethune for some kind of deal we will never hear about and Key will strut himself out as an International statesman.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyryder View Post
    I've mentioned much the same on other issues. It takes guts and committemt to do what these guys do.


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    NB!

    Greenpeace != Sea Shepherd

    p.s. "!=" equals "does not equal".

    Quote Originally Posted by Tank View Post
    BUT - It needs to be noted that he is not being kept on the boat - He is actually not wanting to leave. I think this fucker deserves anything he gets - preferably 10 - 12 years in a Jap prison.
    The Japanese have no prisons. They don't let themselves be taken prisoners... they commit seppuku.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyryder View Post
    It is never right to abandon a fellow countryman for whatever reason.
    I don't see you chipping in to help this poor fellow countryman?
    Poor wee countryman bloke thingy

    This bloke needs to be freed too. Why does our country not support this fellow countryman?

    Let's bring our boys home?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyryder View Post
    It is never right to abandon a fellow countryman for whatever reason. Giving aid and assistance is not condoning their actions. Would you abandon a fellow biker if he broke the law and crashed as a result?
    Do you really thing he is in peril that necessitates the intervention ofthe NZ Govt and or Navy? I don't think so. He will have a safe passage to the next port of call, and either be flown back to NZ to be rid of or face a Jap court in which case the NZFA would possibly assist with legal rep and through diplomatic channels.

    He is in this situation of his own choice...leave him there, no harm done

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher View Post
    There's only one solution to this. Wankers should get their own country.
    May I nominate France?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Lobster View Post
    May I nominate France?
    No Dave, you may not. Somewhere in Africa with lots of sand would be the go...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rainman View Post
    Pete is a top bloke and a true hero. He's not a direct close friend but I'm proud to count him in my extended social circle, and I'm glad he has the balls to do what he believes in - he's braver than me, and I suspect, most of you lot too. Sure the citizen's arrest is a stunt but it's a high-stakes way of getting an issue he believes in into the international debate. He deserves much more support that this government will give him. Unfortunately Murray "Useless" McCully is FM at the moment, and, as usual, won't do his job.
    Pete is a criminal. He has broken the law. Are you suggesting the NZ government should support criminals in attacking foreign nationals?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skyryder View Post
    It is never right to abandon a fellow countryman for whatever reason. Giving aid and assistance is not condoning their actions. Would you abandon a fellow biker if he broke the law and crashed as a result? There is a fundamental flaw in this country and that is that we support our fellow kiwi’s only if we agree with them. Otherwise they can go to hell.
    It is not a case of agreeing with them or not agreeing with them. I happen to agree and would like to see the whaling stop. But, I will not condone criminal behavior to achieve those goals. Why are you willing to support criminals?

    Would you support a bike thief because you're a biker and you know he wants one? Why not?

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    Pete Bethune,rhymes with buffoon.

    He's a typical greenie hypocrite.The whole "Earth Race" thing was your typical "get someone to pay for my expensive hobby,by making it look like a noble cause".
    If he was really concerned with conservation ,he would have stayed home and woven himself a macramé Prius.

    The whalers should have rammed a belaying pin up his arse.
    Do they still use belaying pins?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyryder View Post
    It is never right to abandon a fellow countryman for whatever reason. Giving aid and assistance is not condoning their actions. Would you abandon a fellow biker if he broke the law and crashed as a result? There is a fundamental flaw in this country and that is that we support our fellow kiwi’s only if we agree with them. Otherwise they can go to hell.


    As to how this plays out.


    It’s a foregone conclusion.

    Sea Shepherd’s reasoning for their action on this, is that Key never made a satisfactory response as Prime Minister for the ramming of a NZ registered vessel by the Japanese. Essentially a vessel registered in a country becomes subject to it’s laws and has that country’s protection. In this Key failed in every area of diplomacy. McCully simply does not count.

    By blaming Key, Sea Shepherd have ensured that the incident is kept alive and in the International publics eye. The fact of the matter, regardless of the position one takes concerning the ramming, Key’s response was less than satisfactory and bordered on the dithering. Now that there has been a boarding, and blaming Key’s lack of response, for it, Key is now forced to take the international stage on this issue to counter Sea Shepherd’s position. There is simply no way that Japan will put Peter Bethune on trial that would allow and international/media frenzy showing Key in a poor light. Key will perform as instructed by his mentor, Japan in a face saving move will release Bethune for some kind of deal we will never hear about and Key will strut himself out as an International statesman.



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    Helen Clark would have solved this...yea rite

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