Ractech and a rotting stench

[BMWST?]

Ah, here we go again, I've been away for a week, working, (in the forestry for the curious ) and this shit is still going round in circles. Good for the egotists it must be. Taylor, YOU'VE been slinging mud at me the whole time huh? Mr know-it-all with all the answers still on his high horse eh? Getting a bit bored now are we and looking for more action huh?

Re your springs have you tried going to a local spring place and seeing if they can wind you a spring?It is not a black art.If you take your spring with you they can take measurements and calculate the rate.Using those measurements and your nominated rate they can wind you a spring,maybe even a progressive.At one time i got a couple of springs wound for a mountain bike,they were about 60 dollars each.A motorcycle one would obviously be lots more,but you can get exactly the rate you want.

[Robert Taylor]

Well balanced equals a chip on each shoulder!

[Robert Taylor]

ah, here we go again, i've been away for a week, working, (in the forestry for the curious ) and this shit is still going round in circles. Good for the egotists it must be. Taylor, you've been slinging mud at me the whole time huh? Mr know-it-all with all the answers still on his high horse eh? Getting a bit bored now are we and looking for more action huh?

Because 95% of people on these forums have no desire to broadcast their own name and details to all and sundry on the internet, it makes them gutless does it? Your arrogance is showing again. I don't have the self-promoting agenda of self-interest as you do mr know-all. Because someone decides to use their own name rather than a 'stage name' on a forum, it automatically makes them a 'better' person does it? Taylor, you're so far up yourself it's incredible.

I'm also not surrounded with an entourage of fawning, boot-licking followers who are totally convinced the sun shines directly out of their masters' shiny backside either.

Ie.. I took my bike to "them' and they twiddled my knobs with a special ohlins screwdriver and stroked and lubed my shaft with a special blend of brasso and ohlins snake oil and wow! My bike is so amazing now, it's just wonderful! The 2000 bucks it cost was worth every penny!

Sorry, but the placebo effect doesn't work on the non-gullible...

Anyone who disagrees with this taylor characters' self-righteous, all-knowing manner is immediately dismissed with imperious disdain as an idiot/moron/retard.

Anyone who has the temerity to do their own mods or their own thing is an idiot/moron/retard. Anyone who doesn't pander to the desperate clutching middlemen in this country is an idiot/moron/retard. Anyone who won't sit back and submit to over-pricing or blatant profiteering is an idiot/moron/retard. Anyone not prepared to spend mega-bucks on overpriced top-of-the-line products is an idiot/retard/moron. Anyone who doesn't buy into the used-car-salesman hype is an idiot/retard/moron...

That's how all this self promoting garbage comes across to me. Best you put your head down, do your job and keep your lofty opinions of your own worth to yourself and zip the mouth shut taylor.

does shutting up also include ceasing to actively help ( yes help ) people on these forums??????????????????????????????????????????

[Robert Taylor]

Re your springs have you tried going to a local spring place and seeing if they can wind you a spring?It is not a black art.If you take your spring with you they can take measurements and calculate the rate.Using those measurements and your nominated rate they can wind you a spring,maybe even a progressive.At one time i got a couple of springs wound for a mountain bike,they were about 60 dollars each.A motorcycle one would obviously be lots more,but you can get exactly the rate you want.

The spring manufacturers here often make a nice job but you also have to be wary about the source of the material, most of the top quality material comes from Germany and Sweden. I think a lot of the material that is used here may not be up to spec as I have seen and heard of many locally made springs sacking out quickly. Please someone tell me if youve had better results?

[Shaun]

Majority rule

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Racetech thread

Thanks for actively promoting the name on here

[HenryDorsetCase]

Ah, here we go again, ....

and you did, straight to my ignore list.

Your ad hominem approach to this is quite stunning. I do happen to be a very happy customer of CKT's, but basically it comes down to choice doesnt it? Just because you dont see the value, doesnt mean there is no value. Just because you've thrown your toys out of the cot, relatively spectacularly, doesnt mean others can't be and arent happy.

[Headbanger]

Best you put your head down, do your job and keep your lofty opinions of your own worth to yourself and zip the mouth shut Taylor.

You can't have it both ways, If your going to present one view in your style then others are certainly well in their right to present whatever views they hold, in whatever style they deem fit, And if your view gets swamped in indignation by many others then you could probably learn something from that.

[SS90]

(in the forestry for the curious )

Hi Viscount Montgomery,

Thank's for answering my question.

Interestingly enough, the forestry industry is a good example of blatant capatalism.....how?

Trees are free.

The seeds are supplied by nature, grown by nature, and, essentially, an inexhaustable supply.

you derive a living from, essentially, Nature providing a product, that, is simply cut down (to be replanted with FREE seeds, again supplied by nature), in land, that again, is supplied by nature.

And, somone has to pay for these trees before they get them.

Hmmmm,

I don't think Öhlins "grow on trees".......

[Shaun]

You can't have it both ways, If your going to present one view in your style then others are certainly well in their right to present whatever views they hold, in whatever style they deem fit, And if your view gets swamped in indignation by many others then you could probably learn something from that.

nah mate, IGNORANCE is Bliss

[BMWST?]

The spring manufacturers here often make a nice job but you also have to be wary about the source of the material, most of the top quality material comes from Germany and Sweden. I think a lot of the material that is used here may not be up to spec as I have seen and heard of many locally made springs sacking out quickly. Please someone tell me if youve had better results?

Dont know Robert,just putting an alternative out there.

[Viscount Montgomery]

So some precious so and so put me on his ignore list. Jesus how pathetic can you get? Going ostrich style, that'll really help you along in life won't it. Grow up diddims.

So OK, someone will have the last say here because this is my last post in this stupid bloody thread.

Now, Mr Taylor claims he's a professional, but the true colours really showed here. He handled it all wrong, one disgruntled customer (non-customer) and he DID take to insults on a personal level. Then in the next breath condemned ME for 'ungentlemanly' conduct. There's that much used H word again..

Bottom line for me, racetech NZ's pricing is deplorable. Pricing I can handle, I just go shopping elsewhere for much better deals without a word of complaint. There's plenty of businesses out there who won't ever get a cent from my pocket. Their problem not mine.

But racetech and their cronies cynically shutting off the international online option is the stunt that pisses me right off. That's the stinky part of all this. Sneaky behind-the-scenes wheeling and dealing without a word spoken as how I see it.

AND, talking about sneaky behind-the-scenes action, some people here are claiming to be 'privvy' to my own personal PRIVATE details. How can that be when my details on this site are supposed to be PRIVATE?? Well?

I've never looked at anyone's profile on this site. Ever. And never will. I'm just not interested and it's just none of my business to be delving into others' details. If people want to give out their names and details then good luck to them, fine, that's their own choice. I'm not telling anyone what they should or shouldn't do. Lots value their privacy. So why do sticky beaks insist on trying to tell me what I should or shouldn't do on that score? huh? And some aggressive prima-donna poisonous dwarf calling me gutless is fucken crap, real brave behind the keyboard eh?

And HeadBanger I don't give a rats ass as to how people present their views, Of anyone here, I'm all for saying what you goddam like. Doesn't mean I have to agree does it? I'm not the precious, pursed lipped one here am I? BMWST, I'll sort myself a spring somehow or other bro.


As for my job, I'm way too old to be swinging on a chainsaw these days, long cold wet winter coming up..

I know! I could get a cushy office job with racetech! Something that'll suit my politically correct, understated, pleasant demeanor. Liason officer perhaps, or something in public effing relations? I wouldn't have to deal with spics gooks and chinks on too regular a basis would I?

Yeah, giz a job. Hurry up. giz a job

[Owl]

After the news yesterday, I thought you may work for Telecoms customer service dept?

[kwaka_crasher]

I really don't care if Robert Taylor wants to (or has to) charge more for the Racetech product. People will decide for themselves if the added value is worthwhile to them.

But I do care about Racetech refusing to selll to international customers just because they have an agent here. I wouldn't use them on that basis alone. Sure, CKT may have to recoup the cost of any agency fees and training they may be obliged to undertake etc. but that's up to CKT to determine if being a Racetech agent is worth it's while to them based on customers willingness to pay the extra for the service.

[Robert Taylor]

Certainly you reap what you sow. As has been demonstarted in spades in this thread if you have an obnoxious attitude you will recieve almost universal condemnation.

I dont sit at an office desk all day, dont wear a tie, dont drink lattes or talk to people through dark sunglasses etc.... But I do drink red wine in preference to beer so I guess that doesnt make me a real bloke. I do use expletives but also know where not to use them, heck thats self righteous.

Invariably Im on the workshop floor with oily hands pulling suspension units apart and then Im in ''conference'' with my right hand man Dennis deciding on settings etc. My staff are well paid and I dont begrudge that for one moment. They do a great job, there are few problems and I dont begrudge them a decent standard of living.


Contrary to popular misconception its not all about just pulling the suspension units out of boxes and fitting them up. NZ has a very high ratio of bumpy and challenging roads and riding in almost all codes of motorcycling is pretty much year round. The reality is that much more often than is realised we further tailor the internal settings to better suit our conditions, we also do more than a few that have been privately imported.

Yes there are ''snake oil'' people about but we very definitely do not fall into that category, nor do we compare to used car salesmen ( although I do know some very amenable used car salesmen )

Race Tech are not the only people who are beginning to tighten up with respect to distributors appointed territories, there are more than a few others in all sorts of industries and I believe there will be more movement this way.

Yes, pricing is a problem and I think the day will come when there is only one margin which will effectively cut out the dealer. That will also cut out being able to go down to the local dealer for setup help so thats a definite negative

As many people know we will do deals, if there is a ''full package'' we then have more flexibility to do so, as does any seller. Just ring or e-mail me, straight up. If youre honest youll get an honest deal.

People indeed shop wherever they choose. I prefer not to deal with obnoxious foul mouthed people.

[pc220]

Ah, here we go again, I've been away for a week, working, (in the forestry for the curious ) and this shit is still going round in circles. Good for the egotists it must be. Taylor, YOU'VE been slinging mud at me the whole time huh? Mr know-it-all with all the answers still on his high horse eh? Getting a bit bored now are we and looking for more action huh?

Because 95% of people on these forums have no desire to broadcast their own name and details to all and sundry on the internet, it makes them gutless does it? Your arrogance is showing again. I don't have the self-promoting agenda of self-interest as you do Mr know-all. Because someone decides to use their own name rather than a 'stage name' on a forum, it automatically makes them a 'better' person does it? Taylor, you're so far up yourself it's incredible.

I'm also not surrounded with an entourage of fawning, boot-licking followers who are totally convinced the sun shines directly out of their masters' shiny backside either.

Ie.. I took my bike to "them' and they twiddled my knobs with a special ohlins screwdriver and stroked and lubed my shaft with a special blend of brasso and ohlins snake oil and wow! my bike is so amazing now, it's just wonderful! The 2000 bucks it cost was worth every penny!

Sorry, but the placebo effect doesn't work on the non-gullible...

Anyone who disagrees with this Taylor characters' self-righteous, all-knowing manner is immediately dismissed with imperious disdain as an idiot/moron/retard.

Anyone who has the temerity to do their own mods or their own thing is an idiot/moron/retard. Anyone who doesn't pander to the desperate clutching middlemen in this country is an idiot/moron/retard. Anyone who won't sit back and submit to over-pricing or blatant profiteering is an idiot/moron/retard. Anyone not prepared to spend mega-bucks on overpriced top-of-the-line products is an idiot/retard/moron. Anyone who doesn't buy into the used-car-salesman hype is an idiot/retard/moron...

That's how all this self promoting garbage comes across to me. Best you put your head down, do your job and keep your lofty opinions of your own worth to yourself and zip the mouth shut Taylor.

Mate, Talking that sort of shit you must either be a pruner or planter.