The courts should take a harder line on drunk people starting shit and lock them up for a long time.
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The courts should take a harder line on drunk people starting shit and lock them up for a long time.
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Just like what happens now?Originally Posted by BoristheBiter
This is simply another law just "to solve a problem" which does not work. As an example let us look at the liarbour law of micro-chipping all dogs so as to prevent dogs attacking people. Same concept (target everyone) because targeting the problem is "too difficult" in overly PC New Zealand.
The problem is with the drinking culture that this Banana Republic has.
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could catch a monkey
Fuck, I'm confused now.
I need a drink.....
could catch a monkey
Excuse me, can you not bandy the phrase "bush lawyers" about willy nilly.
We work hard for that title, and we don't want it cheapened by overuse.
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Its part of a host of other things going on though.
What would you suggest would improve the culture problem?
You can't save the fallen, direct the lost or motivate the lazy.
troglodytam extraordinaire
Because the alternative is so much better. Stick head in sand and hope it goes away.
That the problem here, everyone is quick to say what they don't want, but no one will add suggestions on how to fix a problem.
The problem is we in NZ have a booze culture and as most seam to function quite well, there are a few who can't and the laws are put in place to stop them or be able to remove them, unfortunately these laws affect everyone else.
If when we were out and our mates start being complete f***wits because they are pissed we should step in and take them home but we think it’s a good laugh and because of this laws are put into place to be able to deal with it.
If you want to go back to the days of being able to have a few beers on the beach then it’s time we all stuck together and say that this is not acceptable and then it will change but because after 9 years of labour you can do what you want nothing will happen so these laws will stay in place.
Again we have a booze culture and god forbid you might have to go a day without a drink.
troglodytam extraordinaire
Sorry please carry on.
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NZ has culture???
Oh! Drinking culture!
I would suggest getting away from saturation selling to start with. Certain areas of the city have an abundance of small shops selling grog, which I guess the predominant sales would include alcopops.
But alcopops are not the problem. It's those fortified wine drinkers! Bloody sherry tipplers are the issue according to the last gubbinment...
Oddly enough, if they were in for another term, I would have expected the "procurement age" do be lowered again...
The culture begins at an earlier age. A couple of kids living behind my Mum's place are classic examples. Boy of 17 and his sister (16) with her 2yr old child. They are living with their mother who turns a blind eye when they want to have an all-night bender with their schoolmates. The quantity of times that thehave been called to that address is quite large.
Prohibition does not work, we know that.
Overseas countries have differing approaches. I bet the police would have a few ideas on the issue...
TOP QUOTE: “The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people’s money.”
troglodytam extraordinaire
we seem to be on the same page but on your prohibition part, thats the same as saying speeding tickets don't work so we should just be allowed to speed.NZ has culture???
Oh! Drinking culture!
I would suggest getting away from saturation selling to start with. Certain areas of the city have an abundance of small shops selling grog, which I guess the predominant sales would include alcopops.
But alcopops are not the problem. It's those fortified wine drinkers! Bloody sherry tipplers are the issue according to the last gubbinment...
Oddly enough, if they were in for another term, I would have expected the "procurement age" do be lowered again...
The culture begins at an earlier age. A couple of kids living behind my Mum's place are classic examples. Boy of 17 and his sister (16) with her 2yr old child. They are living with their mother who turns a blind eye when they want to have an all-night bender with their schoolmates. The quantity of times that the
Prohibition does not work, we know that.
Overseas countries have differing approaches. I bet the police would have a few ideas on the issue...
It only doesn't work for a few so they needs to be another form of punishment for them.
Also we need a legal drinking age not just able to buy age.
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I'm happy to throw out ideas... it may not be feasible, in fact probably not, but what would you think of breathalising people to get a drink? or to get into a pub? over a certain amount of milligrams, you can't get in, or you're kicked out... not that it would, but it could encourage people to take responsibility for how much they're drinking... just an idea like!
I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!
L-Plate Rider
And why are the police being called for people drinking with their schoolmates at their own house? What is illegal about that?NZ has culture???
Oh! Drinking culture!
I would suggest getting away from saturation selling to start with. Certain areas of the city have an abundance of small shops selling grog, which I guess the predominant sales would include alcopops.
But alcopops are not the problem. It's those fortified wine drinkers! Bloody sherry tipplers are the issue according to the last gubbinment...
Oddly enough, if they were in for another term, I would have expected the "procurement age" do be lowered again...
The culture begins at an earlier age. A couple of kids living behind my Mum's place are classic examples. Boy of 17 and his sister (16) with her 2yr old child. They are living with their mother who turns a blind eye when they want to have an all-night bender with their schoolmates. The quantity of times that the
Prohibition does not work, we know that.
Overseas countries have differing approaches. I bet the police would have a few ideas on the issue...
L-Plate Rider
ok so no-one from wellington has started a petition for the wellington city council to not impose a city-wide alcohol ban yet. If you start one we can all sign it. Someone from welly start one here:
http://www.wellington.govt.nz/haveyo...-petitions/ep/
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I guess it might have something to do with the streetfighting, loud music throughout the night, cars arriving/departing doing burnouts, litter distribution, vomiting, public urination and throwing of bottles at traffic.
But I could be wrong.
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L-Plate Rider
looks like there is an official petition up that has already got 2 signatures in less than a day:
http://www.wellington.govt.nz/haveyo...ep/details/124
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Portugal has recently decriminalized all drugs for users, dealers are still punished.
So, in Portugal you could roll up your sleeve and ping up some smack, at the concert in the park/ picnic, if you wanted.
I think the problem in NZ is education? Where??? is it? Or just for fun, are they trying to see how stupid they can get us?
And if not for fun, for what?
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