Swedish eh? Hows that virtually uncontrolled immigration, out of control welfare state and sky high taxes working out for you?Originally Posted by Argyle
Bit on the nose for you to bag our systems when yours are none too flash.
Hardcore Biker
Swedish eh? Hows that virtually uncontrolled immigration, out of control welfare state and sky high taxes working out for you?
Bit on the nose for you to bag our systems when yours are none too flash.
Highway Biker
+1. The woman is always made to look bad! The father gets away with it, and gets a life!
Double shot!!
Your use of "always" is I think a little optimistic. Stacks of times the father gets a bad deal.
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There are users in both genders - good women who are taken advantage of by bastards and left coping on their own, and also good blokes who are screwed over by unscrupulous women who use babies/children as some sort of weapon.
I can see the point that the OP is making from one perspective, and personally know young women who are brainless enough to think that "more babies = more benefit". (They never get so far as to think of the long term cost that the child will incur through it's life, or if they do they expect anyone but themselves to bear the cost).
I just see the whole thing as a good reason to avoid sex unless you are prepared to accept the consequences that can come from it. However, that would be a highly unpopular view as that might mean periods of/a lifestyle of celibacy. Gosh, now that would never do!
**sits back and waits for the flaming arrows and pitchforks for her "unnaturalness"**
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Grumpy Old Bastard
Geez, Argyle, you are either very brave or very foolish with this post about NZ mothers...you're treading on very thin ice on a subject like that IMO...
Whilst I can see what you are driving at, I also think you are making a very broad generalisation in that you lump all mothers in together. They are, very obviously, not all the same. Your post comes across to me as not being very well thought out. Look more closely and you will find many variations in mothering practices...
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Personally I think our Argyle was referring to that section of mothers who fit his description (sometimes I even surprise my self with my cleverness!!!). But considering that his home country has exactly the same issues it is a little of the kettle and pot here.
NZ: "On the Subject of One-parent families
There appears to be a decrease of solo mothers living alone and a corresponding increase in solo mothers living in a multi family situation. There does not appear to be any increasing economic independence on the part of female parents but more a need to combine economic units.
This is not surprising when we look at the income levels of Single Parent Families living in private dwellings; where 48.59 % earn $25,000 or less (2001 Census).
The number of one-parent families with at least one dependent child is projected to increase by at least 28% from 153,000 in 2001 to 196,000 in 2021, although this could be as high as 215,000.
Single parent households will equate to over one third of households with children. So yes if your reading this and your a solo parent you can see you are certainly not part of a small minority. In fact, single parent households are projected to account for 36% of New Zealand households with dependent children by 2021. The actual number of one-parent families is projected to increase to 251,000 in 2021.
Sweden: "De ensamstående föräldrarna utgör en stor och växande andel av den svenska befolkningen. I Sverige finns idag cirka 1,2 miljoner barnfamiljer. De ensamstående föräldrarna utgör ca 26 procent av dessa. (2003)"
Translated: "Single parents make a big and growing part of the Swedish population. Today there is approx 1.2 million families with children. 26% of these are single parents (2003)."
That makes approx 300,000 single parents in Sweden...
So the figures are very similar considering that Sweden has approx double the population of NZ.
Moped rider
God must be a sensitive subject, since this thread been on the top ten for three days now. Must be allot of old guys, mums and fathers on this forum.
Of course not all women they're the same, you all know which ones I’m talking about and we all dislike them.
Pisses me off when a fat mum with five kids wanders around on the supermarket, paying her white bread and chips with the money that was suppose to fix that pot hole in the road which made someone crash and get killed.
Missing my buddy Morepower
Another generalisation...........whats with the 'fat' comment. Alot of fat women are actually married.............. to fat menHave a look around, you will see.......................... its the skinny ones that appear to not be able to keep a bloke!
[lucky for me I'm in the middle]
Moped rider
Sweden, we should not even talk about that country, completely useless and out of control.
Anyway, we've all had our say now and there’s no meaning keeping this thread alive anymore....
Forum whore
I think this thread is popular because it is a subject that is close to all our hearts.
It is time for all the world to tighten it's belt, and this is when we all start thinking about how much money goes to those who don't deserve it.
Again,I don't think that people who knock "solo mum's" mean "women who raise children on their own", I think they refer to the "Chloe of Wainuomata" style of bludger.......
Highway Biker
Maybe it is But most generalizations refer to the mother, not to the father that has abandoned some of them. I'm am a solo mother, I have worked all my childs life supporting her. I don't like the thought of mothers sitting back and getting pregnant whilst they are collecting a benefit, but there are a lot of people whom genuinely need it and its those people we should be caring about, there just needs to be a tougher criteria for people on the benefit so its not getting ripped off.
Yes there are a lot of fathers that get a raw deal too, the whole system needs and overhaul!
Moped rider
Work and Income should put up a website where you can report people who rip off the system, anonymous.
They did that back in Sweden and they got 40 000 reports in a day!
Highway Biker
I don't like the thought either. But until you enforce sterilisation or abortion would you condemn a child to being hungry? Much as I dislike a beneficiary culture (Not genuine beneficiaries) I'd not want a child to go hungry even if it costs me a few hundred dollars a month.
Highway Biker
I Know, its a hard one with no easy answer.
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