How to spell GAY

**gatch** · 24th February 2010, 21:09

Originally Posted by k14

And you know that how? When you have a production of a total of 4 bikes, the cost per bike is pretty high. I am pretty sure that the 1 million euro cost wouldn't even cover the ongoing engineering and development costs for the bike. Then on top of that you add up travel expenses for 15 guys to each round, along with crash damage etc, it pretty quickly gets very expensive!

I was under the impression that the million euro was for the bike only. Not the dudes that hang around as well..

But I have been wrong before. Once ? Maybe..

**JayRacer37** · 25th February 2010, 00:06

The real irony is that last season was the best 250 one in years! And Aprillia being beaten by a Honda in a class Honda killed...very funny. I bet the Italians wern't laughing though.

Moto2 looks like it has potential....Maybe this year and next they get the class established, then open slather on motors like MotoGP? As Brian said, would be great to have prototype motors from each manufacturer there - but set some rules ie 5 race per motor, 600, inline 4. Mind you htey are a bit close to motoGP withe the current 800's - maybe they can go back to 1000's? Or how about (if they want to reduce highsides but get the slides and racing going) 1100cc, 4 speed gearbox max, with mechanical slipper clutch only and no backshift electronics (or TC etc either)? They would have to build torquey motors with good power spread, so slides would be back. Combine that with a bike that will slide on corner entry and is forgiving to do so, they could have some awesome racing again....

But they will probably lower MotoGP to all GSXR750 motors or something, then combine Moto2 and MotoGP to lower costs

Go MSMA!

**k14** · 25th February 2010, 05:32

Originally Posted by gatch

I was under the impression that the million euro was for the bike only. Not the dudes that hang around as well..

But I have been wrong before. Once ? Maybe..

Yes the million euro figure is for the bike only afaik. If I remember correctly it was around 4 million to run a simoncelli/bautista level project for a year.

Originally Posted by JayRacer37

The real irony is that last season was the best 250 one in years! And Aprillia being beaten by a Honda in a class Honda killed...very funny. I bet the Italians wern't laughing though.

Moto2 looks like it has potential....Maybe this year and next they get the class established, then open slather on motors like MotoGP? As Brian said, would be great to have prototype motors from each manufacturer there - but set some rules ie 5 race per motor, 600, inline 4. Mind you htey are a bit close to motoGP withe the current 800's - maybe they can go back to 1000's? Or how about (if they want to reduce highsides but get the slides and racing going) 1100cc, 4 speed gearbox max, with mechanical slipper clutch only and no backshift electronics (or TC etc either)? They would have to build torquey motors with good power spread, so slides would be back. Combine that with a bike that will slide on corner entry and is forgiving to do so, they could have some awesome racing again....

But they will probably lower MotoGP to all GSXR750 motors or something, then combine Moto2 and MotoGP to lower costs

Go MSMA!

Gee what rock have you been hiding under, motogp is all but confirmed to be going back to 1000's in 2012.

**JayRacer37** · 25th February 2010, 07:21

Originally Posted by k14

all but confirmed .

Jeez, we have not heard that from them and then had a complete about face before...

**Oscar** · 25th February 2010, 07:23

Originally Posted by gatch

I was under the impression that the million euro was for the bike only. Not the dudes that hang around as well..

But I have been wrong before. Once ? Maybe..

Lat years 250s are for sale for as little as 50,000 euro.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 25th February 2010, 07:27

Originally Posted by Oscar

Lat years 250s are for sale for as little as 50,000 euro.

I need to win Lotto sooooooo badly!

**Rcktfsh** · 25th February 2010, 16:55

MotoGPMatters.com is reporting today that Honda have settled on a pretty low spec for the engines at 125 rwhp. Interesting quandry there in with needing to make the motors reliable and consistent for 3 race weekends, wouldn't be good PR having bikes blowing up versus looking silly if the 125's are lapping faster.

**avgas** · 25th February 2010, 17:19

So let me get this right. Only buckets are now based on real bikes.
Bunch of bloody F1 groupies lol

**gatch** · 25th February 2010, 17:27

Originally Posted by Oscar

Lat years 250s are for sale for as little as 50,000 euro.

As little as.. LOL

Still, that would be the tits.

**k14** · 25th February 2010, 17:38

Originally Posted by gatch

As little as.. LOL

Still, that would be the tits.

Yeah always thought an Aprillia would do as a good bears bike

**JayRacer37** · 25th February 2010, 19:15

Originally Posted by Rcktfsh

MotoGPMatters.com is reporting today that Honda have settled on a pretty low spec for the engines at 125 rwhp. Interesting quandry there in with needing to make the motors reliable and consistent for 3 race weekends, wouldn't be good PR having bikes blowing up versus looking silly if the 125's are lapping faster.

So basically, 600SP is going to be faster than the equiv. level Prototype class, and SBK has been knocking on the door of MotoGP for ages. Combine that with boring prototype racing with all the wizzbang gizmos, and SBK is going to be way the better series, for the next two years minimum! Honda should be producing 150rwhp in Moto2, since a WSS CBR600 makes 140...

**Rcktfsh** · 25th February 2010, 19:36

Originally Posted by JayRacer37

So basically, 600SP is going to be faster than the equiv. level Prototype class, and SBK has been knocking on the door of MotoGP for ages. Combine that with boring prototype racing with all the wizzbang gizmos, and SBK is going to be way the better series, for the next two years minimum! Honda should be producing 150rwhp in Moto2, since a WSS CBR600 makes 140...

Closer to 150 for the WSS hondas/yamahas but there being freshened every meeting. Hondas original aims appears to have been 150 but it seems they got sick of digging engine parts out of the dyno room walls. The engines not only have to be reliable over three race weekends but just as importantly stay consistent over that period for the formula to be a level playing field.

**JayRacer37** · 25th February 2010, 20:05

Originally Posted by Rcktfsh

Closer to 150 for the WSS hondas/yamahas but there being freshened every meeting. Hondas original aims appears to have been 150 but it seems they got sick of digging engine parts out of the dyno room walls. The engines not only have to be reliable over three race weekends but just as importantly stay consistent over that period for the formula to be a level playing field.

Should have stock thousand motors in them instead then...oh no, that'll be MotoGP won't it? Prototype racing has gone to the dogs since 2002!

**cowpoos** · 25th February 2010, 20:25

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

How to spell GAY.

Well that is the correct spelling...which was originally a acronym for 'God As You'
as an option to be different sometimes you could try the spelling Ghey.