Safer Journeys 10 year strategy

**Bald Eagle** · 3rd March 2010, 09:56

Transport Minister Steven Joyce has this morning unveiled the Government's Safer Journeys 10-year road safety strategy.
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There were also changes for motorcyclists with Cabinet to consider measures to improve motorcycle rider training and licensing and require licensing of mopeds. The Government also intended to introduce a power-to-weight restriction for novice riders which would be consulted on through the select committee process....

I hope they 'consult' in better faith than ACC

**Big Dave** · 3rd March 2010, 09:59

On reading what you have there my reaction was - so far so good.

But I'm also familiar with the term 'sucker punch'.

**riffer** · 3rd March 2010, 10:05

I'm very please with the potential removal of the right-hand-rule. About bloody time! But why do we need to have an investigation into whether power restrictions should be in place for restricted drivers and cars? Should be self-evident. I think BRONZ needs to make some more submissions.

**Okey Dokey** · 3rd March 2010, 10:08

I was annoyed to hear an AA spokesman prattling on about the motorcycle training being based on the one being used in Victoria. I think it should be generated by New Zealander motorcyclists to suit us. We should have the control, rather than having it handed down/ dictated to us from above.

How do we achieve this?

**spajohn** · 3rd March 2010, 11:15

Originally Posted by Okey Dokey

I was annoyed to hear an AA spokesman prattling on about the motorcycle training being based on the one being used in Victoria.How do we achieve this?

I learned to ride in NSW, whereas my brother has learned in Vic (later on in life :-) ). Having compared the two the NSW one was far more comprehensive with 2 full days training subsidised so the cost is only $60 to the rider, with all gear provided. At the time I thought it was a bit full on, but in hindsight I think it was great, and at only $60 a bargain.

**Yossarian** · 3rd March 2010, 12:13

Christ on a stick, that right hand rule.....

Yeah, get rid of that. It did my head in when I lived in New Zealand.

**Big Dave** · 3rd March 2010, 12:38

Originally Posted by Okey Dokey

I was annoyed to hear an AA spokesman prattling on about the motorcycle training being based on the one being used in Victoria. I think it should be generated by New Zealander motorcyclists to suit us. We should have the control, rather than having it handed down/ dictated to us from above.

How do we achieve this?

Depends if they are onerous dictates or not. I'm still at so far so good.

The Victorian system does call for ugly front number plates though.

**DangerMice** · 3rd March 2010, 12:46

what do they mean by "require licensing of mopeds"? Registration? well we already pay that. Maybe needing a motorcycle license to ride one? Well that's a good move, but thats licensing the rider, not the moped. Don't understand.

**Berries** · 3rd March 2010, 15:29

Originally Posted by Bald Eagle

I hope they 'consult' in better faith than ACC

Correct me if I am wrong, but 'consultation' on all this was carried out last year, prior to the ACC palaver. Based on that I am not sure that any of the First Actions are going to be up for further consultation. All these are for new riders anyway, the stage 2 Possible Actions are possible training for returning riders and a vague treatment programme for popular motorbike routes. Nice to see they have dropped the differential levy idea, ha ha ha, but I can't see where my $30 from the increased ACC levy is going to be spent. I think I might ask for refund.

I was kind of hopeful that they would do something for existing riders, as intimated in the discussion document, but clearly not.

Hmm. After further reading and digestion I see they are promoting the benefits of median barriers on high risk rural roads as part of the Safer Roads and Roadsides approach. That will go down well.

**Genestho** · 3rd March 2010, 16:33

Public Consultation was opened last year in August with submissions closing 1st october?, now all the strategies will go through select committee.

**p.dath** · 3rd March 2010, 17:57

Originally Posted by Okey Dokey

I was annoyed to hear an AA spokesman prattling on about the motorcycle training being based on the one being used in Victoria. I think it should be generated by New Zealander motorcyclists to suit us. We should have the control, rather than having it handed down/ dictated to us from above.

How do we achieve this?

Perhaps you should take a look at the Victorian system. There's nothing wrong with looking at those systems around the world which work, and then copying them. No point in re-inventing the wheel and repeating the same mistakes.

**Muppet** · 3rd March 2010, 19:52

Just because you pass a test doesn't make you a good driver/rider. We all know current motorcycle testing does nothing to prepare you for real riding, 90% of which which is done on the open road.

**ManDownUnder** · 3rd March 2010, 20:19

Originally Posted by T.G.W

Public Consultation was opened last year in August with submissions closing 1st october?, now all the strategies will go through select committee.

Aaaaah yes but the more usual "pubic" consultation process is likely to have won the day - again. Step one - interview a bunch of c*nts... Step two get a bunch of dicks to anal-ise the results... step three... see what comes up.

Make sure it's all done behind closed doors so no one is offended and voila - a brand new law is born