Calling all 2-stroke fans.

[RDjase]

Clubmans. F2 I think... must check. Don't think I can run Pre89 even though the parts are all pre 89 (checking the rules I can't see anything stopping me, but if someone KNOWS otherwise let me know). Can't see me being fast enough for F2 anyway, and I'll never crack the 1:18 at Manfeild which is the 'cutoff' for Clubmans with VMCC.

I'm thinking posties, junior even....

You would be ok for Pre89 junior I guess, There is mention of USD forks in the regs but they are standard on your Bike so must be ok. Bit of a grey area
The F3 250cc stroke rules us out for that and F2 doesnt mention bugger all about 2 strokes. Must have another read of the rule book. Would be good to do 2 classes in the Winter series

Be good if the over 250 strokes can run in F2, A whole feild of TZ, RD and hybred strokers running in a class within a class

Dont think the F2 racers would like it tho

[RDjase]

I don't want skite about it but that was mine and I smoked the others he he he he....

It does sound bloody good George ! I hav seen you a Andy Mac on his LC have some great battles,

Be good you will have another bike and your old one will be racing as well

I can smell the R30 from here

[Billy]

So is now a good time to mention Ive got an RGV 250L SP for sale,Eligible for pre89 and F3,Adjustable suspension at both ends and a good engine,Complete bike minus bodywork and tank,Needs some tlc to get on the track but cheap at $750.00 and also an RGV250M,Tidy and complete but deregistered $2000.00

[Whitebait]

As I said before - F3 rules allow two strokes. VMCC runs F3 classes. All you have to do is enter.
There is nothing that needs doing to the 'rules' or by the clubs. It has always been up to you to enter.

Pointless thread other than showing how many 'say' they want to race but don't bother entering races. *sigh*
Kinda like the Motards asking us for their own class and then not turning up. Or the Open twins we ran at last years Nationals... You'll find it an uphill battle to get you own class now without FIRST proving you'll race. You can only do that by entering F3 or Clubmans. Over to you lot.

BTW: I'm building a two stroke twin to race so I'd like to see more out there too.

It's not about having our own class (to start with anyway) but getting more people that have bikes on to the track.

We will be racing within F3.

It's not a pointless thread if it gets another 2 or 3 people on the track....................I'm giving it a crack why don't you try and help

F3 has turned into a cluster fuck and I think it needs to be broken off into 2 classes the fast guys and the slow guys down on a lap time cut off point....................just my thoughts though.

A lot of people are keen so hopefully we can make it a bit of a spectator event as well.

[RDjase]

It's not about having our own class (to start with anyway) but getting more people that have bikes on to the track.

We will be racing within F3.

It's not a pointless thread if it gets another 2 or 3 people on the track....................I'm giving it a crack why don't you try and help

F3 has turned into a cluster fuck and I think it needs to be broken off into 2 classes the fast guys and the slow guys down on a lap time cut off point....................just my thoughts though.

A lot of people are keen so hopefully we can make it a bit of a spectator event as well.

I have probably got enough bits to build another LC/RZ and run a 250 engine in it for F3 in my odds and sods parts. It wont be competitive but it will be fun

I will Leave my LC350 for pre 82

[nzkr1]

I have probably got enough bits to build another LC/RZ and run a 250 engine in it for F3 in my odds and sods parts. It wont be competitive but it will be fun

Sure it will if whitebait is going to ride the way he has....

[nzkr1]

It does sound bloody good George ! I hav seen you a Andy Mac on his LC have some great battles,

Be good you will have another bike and your old one will be racing as well

I can smell the R30 from here

Image that, 2 KR1s at the pointy end of the other 250 strokers...

[Skunk]

It's not about having our own class (to start with anyway) but getting more people that have bikes on to the track.

We will be racing within F3.

It's not a pointless thread if it gets another 2 or 3 people on the track....................I'm giving it a crack why don't you try and help

F3 has turned into a cluster fuck and I think it needs to be broken off into 2 classes the fast guys and the slow guys down on a lap time cut off point....................just my thoughts though.

A lot of people are keen so hopefully we can make it a bit of a spectator event as well.

You missed my point. We are waiting for you to enter. The class is already there and has been for years. Just enter.
There's been a whole lot of posts along the lines of 'cool' and 'I'm keen' so the question is "where the hell have you been?" It's been waiting for you. That's why I have said twice - ENTER. There is nothing more to be done. There's no rules to make or classes to create.

Going by this thread we should have several 2 stokes at the Winter Series. Excellent!

One problem with breaking classes into two is where do you fit it into the programme? Most clubs run into issues with trying to fit what they have into a meeting. And we can only fit 35 on the grid at Manfeild. F3 is a popular class (except at Nationals it seems). If you're not fast enough (top 35) you'll be put into the next best class.

[nzkr1]

There's been a whole lot of posts along the lines of 'cool' and 'I'm keen' so the question is "where the hell have you been?" It's been waiting for you. That's why I have said twice - ENTER. There is nothing more to be done. There's no rules to make or classes to create.

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I raced at every Vic Club meeting last year and so did whaiebait, and us 250 strokers made up a third of the F3 feild at the last national round. And by the Sunday we nearly made up half the feild. My 2 cents worth.....

[Skunk]

I raced at every Vic Club meeting last year and so did whaiebait, and us 250 strokers made up a third of the F3 feild at the last national round. And by the Sunday we nearly made up half the feild. My 2 cents worth.....

I wasn't referring to you as you WERE there. That sentence was aimed at those that say they are keen.

[Whitebait]

You missed my point. We are waiting for you to enter. The class is already there and has been for years. Just enter.
There's been a whole lot of posts along the lines of 'cool' and 'I'm keen' so the question is "where the hell have you been?" It's been waiting for you. That's why I have said twice - ENTER. There is nothing more to be done. There's no rules to make or classes to create.

Going by this thread we should have several 2 stokes at the Winter Series. Excellent!

One problem with breaking classes into two is where do you fit it into the programme? Most clubs run into issues with trying to fit what they have into a meeting. And we can only fit 35 on the grid at Manfeild. F3 is a popular class (except at Nationals it seems). If you're not fast enough (top 35) you'll be put into the next best class.

Stop being a hater! There's a whole forum of threads to talk shit in..................

So far we have 11 people keen.

We saw at Round 4 of the Nationals that the 2-stroke boys are keen............where were all the 400 riders............

Keen doesn't mean you have to do every race possible.

NZKR1 has put his hand up to be the class leader...........he's gonna wear a day glow vest and you get 10 bonus points if you knock him off!!!!

Lets see if we can get 20 people keen by the end of this week.

[satchriossi]

Would it be fair to say that as F3 stands at the moment, a proddy 250 doesn't stand a hope in hell of winning a race?

When new riders are looking for a class or choosing a machine to race, surely when making the decision they will consider which machines are most competitive within the formula - to give them the best chance of doing well during their time in the class. I'm sure no-one starts out thinking; "yeah i'm gonna be a top 20 man!"

That being the case, they're gonna steer WELL clear of the 250s because of my first point above.

With the proposed 'Two Stroke Revival' class to be run within F3, class wins or podium finishes are suddenly feasible again for these [I]relatively[I] slower machines. It would serve to make the 250s a more attractive class to run in. Especially when you factor in the passion many people have for 2 stroke machines, having a class to run them in where a race win was a very real possibility could only serve to bring more riders in.

Again i stress this would be a 'class within F3'. The 250 rider might finish 11th overall in the field but if he's the first 2T over the line then that would be a 'TSR' class win.

You see - TSR (two stroke revival), it even SOUNDS cool.

[nzkr1]

Stop being a hater! There's a whole forum of threads to talk shit in..................

So far we have 11 people keen.

We saw at Round 4 of the Nationals that the 2-stroke boys are keen............where were all the 400 riders............

Keen doesn't mean you have to do every race possible.

NZKR1 has put his hand up to be the class leader...........he's gonna wear a day glow vest and you get 10 bonus points if you knock him off!!!!

Lets see if we can get 20 people keen by the end of this week.

Bring it on whitebait, catch me if you can... Maybe we could offer a prise to the 250 winner on the day or over the series... providing Vic Club don't have a problem with that.

[satchriossi]

yeah, and a championship points system just for TSR, that'd make the competition between the 2Ts more exciting over the course of a season.

It'd mean we just have to beat the fast KR1 dude, rather than having to pull off a minor miracle and keep up with Mr Williams and his carbon wheels.

[Whitebait]

This is good!

Any idea or ideas that can make racing more fun is a good one.

At the end of the day there are people out there who race for fun.............we can't all be as fast as Jorge or Vale

Your KR1 is fast George and you are a good rider (There I said it) I'm taking the moral high ground.

I've got a couple of little traicks up my sleeve for the NSR which are sure to be within the rules................just!!

How many guys on 2T's would be doing the tri-series??

Tom TSR is a great name for the "class"............we'll keep that.