Superbikes limited to superstock?

[codgyoleracer]

Mate there will be more than a few people celebrating when against the odds Craig can score his first Superbike nationals win. The Hondas have a horespower deficiency against the Suzukis ( mainly midrange ) and its always a delight seeing Craig ride the wheels off his Honda.
I am proud to call Craig my very very good friend.

Gaaawd, now i know who was buying it that merlot for you at Ruapuna.................

[slowpoke]

Would people be interested in utilising a freight service for bikes and bits if available assuming pickups in each major centre and delivery to the circuits on the Thursday night or Friday morning, all gear picked up on Sunday and dropped at the major centres again?
Everyone could be allocated a certain volume for bike and gear and we try and get a freight company on board at good rates or maybe as a sponsor (wishful thinking probably).
Then simply fly in, get together with a rental van for transport over the weekend, (think of the van racing as well, lots of fun) race ya bikes and fly home.

Just thoughts

Kevin Goddard
MNZ ON Road Board Member.

While it won't suit everyone, it would definitely be an option for those doing it on a budget or limiting time off work. Set up a container with tie down points for bikes and big bins/racks for your spares/tools etc, ship it to trackside and it would work out very cost effective. Maybe even have one large marquee for the riders involved rather than shipping individual ezi-ups, and one large genny. It could be an investment by MNZ, eventually paid for by the competitors or great exposure for a shipping company(container), party hire (marquee), hire service (generator). Hell, throw in a compressor and tyre machine and it would be self sufficient.

Stroudy took all my gear down South and I just flew backwards and forwards as it suited. With $59 flights between Wellington and Christchurch it wasn't a bad way to go. I did it mostly for family reasons but it would also work well for someone wanting to limit time off work. I'd be keen to do it that way again if the option was available.

[slowpoke]

Mate there will be more than a few people celebrating when against the odds Craig can score his first Superbike nationals win. The Hondas have a horespower deficiency against the Suzukis ( mainly midrange ) and its always a delight seeing Craig ride the wheels off his Honda.
I am proud to call Craig my very very good friend.

Yep, be good to see him crack it. You guys certainly had the Honda hooked up at Manfeild, Robert. For better or worse seeing Craig coming out of Dunlop still well keeled over with the front wheel lofted was worth the price of admission alone.....hang on it was free wasn't it? He's not just a Feilding Fashionista, he can fuggin' ride alright.

[Robert Taylor]

Just a point of clarification, there are no factory riders in New Zealand. There are a handful of distributor riders in New Zealand and the amount of support is limited by the size of our tiny economy.
Just also as a point of reference In Europe Ohlins dont sponsor anyone ( they dont have to ) The factory teams buy the suspension and then contract for the use of a suspension technician. In the case of Yamaha MotoGP the suspension bill they recieve per season for Rossi and Lorenzo is 1 million euros. So you can imagine what it costs to run the entire team, irrespective of who is paying......
In NZ racing is cheap, fact. Especially so when so much is done out of goodwill.

[Maido]

In NZ racing is cheap, fact. Especially so when so much is done out of goodwill.

Rabbit Ranch is not cheap Robert! lol

[Robert Taylor]

Gaaawd, no i know who was buying it that merlot for you at Ruapuna.................

Too many people were buying me merlot!!!

[Pussy]

Too many people were buying me merlot!!!

That makes a change from the "chateau methylated spirit" you're normally on, RT....

[Robert Taylor]

Yep, be good to see him crack it. You guys certainly had the Honda hooked up at Manfeild, Robert. For better or worse seeing Craig coming out of Dunlop still well keeled over with the front wheel lofted was worth the price of admission alone.....hang on it was free wasn't it? He's not just a Feilding Fashionista, he fuggin' ride alright.

Thanks for that, that only comes from sheer bloody minded hard work and by providing a PROPER suspension service that will make more than just 2 or 3 riders fast and competitive.

All spring options in stock at all times, very liberal exchange service

Its more than about just twiddling clickers, if a revalve is required to optimise to the track then we jolly well do it and in fact push such an agenda with riders.

Sticking for the most part to Ohlins setting banks and not arrogantly assuming we know more than the very powerful intellect and empirical experience of the Ohlins factory.

And while we are talking about Superbikes ( add 600s ) just imagine what a wobbly jelly that CBR1000 would be with stock or modified stock suspension. Even in modified form it would turn to mush after as early as two laps due to too much disparity in temperature expansion of components, causing fade. Add into that you just cannot do a valving change in as little as 10 minutes, you cant add spring preload in as little as 10 seconds etc etc. Also an ability to do geometry changes very quickly via ride height adjusters...............................Stock suspension is by no means designed to be worked on or worked on quickly, exactly why aftermarket quality suspension exists. Even those that have marketed aftermarket kits for stock suspension have effectively admitted defeat by now making their own shocks and cartridge insert kits e.g Race Tech, K-Tech.

[Robert Taylor]

That makes a change from the "chateau methylated spirit" you're normally on, RT....

No, 19 cst fork oil, a more hardcore brew than your preferred 15cst tipple!!!

[Pussy]

No, 19 cst fork oil, a more hardcore brew than your preferred 15cst tipple!!!

Very good!
I deserved that!!

[Drew]

dont go overboard with positivty........why you saying nick cole,karl morgan,james smith arnt talented??.......theres alot of talent in new zealand..there jsut isnt the money to get them overseas.....

Those guys are awesome, I wasn't intending to take away from that. I'm saying that if the only experience they have is at New Zealand level as it is, and they go overseas, they're gonna get their arses handed to them for some time before they become competetitive.

I'm not saying the depth of the talent pool here is lacking, I'm saying that the events dont get it all in one place, at the same time. If the level of competition doesn't get any better, then those with the talent are wasting their time here.

I love the sport, and want nothing more than for it to be huge. I just think it should be better promoted, and better orchestrated.

[CHOPPA]

The Hondas have a horespower deficiency against the Suzukis ( mainly midrange ) and its always a delight seeing Craig ride the wheels off his Honda.

It is cool to watch Craig ride, he always seems to be sideways or leaving fat black lines! He is still gay though!

[CHOPPA]

these chicken legs are gna make you my bit@h at hamptons.
Hope you enjoyed ur little time in 3rd in points shame you aint gna stay there.
catch you in a couple of weeks windy

Its on like donkey kong hahahahahaha

[Squiggles]

very very good friend.

Sounds gay.
*runs*

[Rcktfsh]

Seeing as how my 3 South island rnds in 2 weeks suggestions appears about as popular as pork dishes at a Bar Mitzvah what are peoples thoughts on dropping a South Island round so that it would only mean 2 weekends in a row down South in January followed by 2 weekends in a row up North in February therefore condensing the calender and shortening the time required away from work. With the supers & 600's currently having 2 races per round over 5 rounds adding up to a 10 race championship why not increase this to 3 races per round resulting in a 12 race championship over 4 rounds. With the resurgence in the street stock class this should also be standardised as the support class over the championship, long term this is likely to feed more riders into the feature classes than running clubmans or posties as support. If 3 races are run for the feature classes this could place extra pressure on the days timetable so support may need to be pared back to 2 races a meeting or easier still just get drop that group of bickering gay bar loitering racers known as sidecars. Bringing the Bert Munroe into the calender would be a backward step in that it would require a stand alone trip to Invers, the weather is dubious at best at that time of year and thirdly the event has a special character with the hill climb, beach races, teretonga then street race, this format would require altering if a 2 day nat round where to be incorperated.