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  1. #31
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    From memory the '10 KTM's where announced somewhere around mid year 2009 (or even earlier?) and released in September. I would wait to see what is happening with the 2011 models. Especially as they tend to drop the price and run-out the older stock (if there are any 300s left)

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    There will be little to no changes with the 2011 EXC's. 2012 is when the revamp is supposed to be happening. And there wont be any 300's left for a runout cost to occur. There isnt many left as it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlangMasterJ View Post
    at least it will be more reliable and faster than it was...

    look at the dust its kicking up in photo 13... Thats at least twice the amount any ktm would be able to
    only a ktm owner would have the exaust coming around the whole frame... jesus. If they have fabricated engine mounts how hard would it be to bend the exhaust

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    Quote Originally Posted by EXCDirt View Post
    Who does them?
    There was a place down christchurch I saw but now can't find it.
    TM Dealers
    Motoworks Address: 413 Tuam Street
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    Phone 03 389 0308
    Fax: 03 389 0309
    Email: info@motoworks.co.nz
    Website: www.motoworks.co.nz

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    Quote Originally Posted by EXCDirt View Post
    http://www.gasgas.es/es/enduro/25-ec...tin-300cc.html
    Holy shit! How do you find one of those? Ohlins Susp and god knows what else?
    Dear I ask how much?
    But That's my Favorite bike so far.
    But Gas gas no elecy start Yet... I do like how my Ktm is a tough bike and at some points I'm just swinging off the back of the bars like a flag in the wind.
    No six day Ktm 300s left I assume?
    You call up gasgasNZ and ask for one
    There are only gonna be around 250 of them made, and 80 of them are going to France.
    Also, there only making them in June/July, so none have been distributed yet.
    But if you consider that the TTX cartridge for the Sachs forks and the TTX shock is close to 6k, then the head with interchangable chambers, powdercoated frame, Renthal twinwalls, the FMF Q Stealth, special white plastics.
    Price is 8945 euros, which is ~17500 NZD

    But if you look at the gasgas 300 sixdays, its ~$1700 less expensive than the sixdays ktm, and cheaper still than a normal ktm 300 http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-273560456.htm

    Quote Originally Posted by GasGas Australia View Post
    The EC300 Electric has been delayed due to a patent that was submitted by another manufacture that has caused Gas Gas to re develop its electric start EC300. Component re-manufacturing, re-tooling and testing will see the EC300 electric production date delayed and to be announced as soon as we can. We apologize for this delay knowing that customers have deposits on this model. We will keep customers and dealers up dated as we find out more information from Gas Gas.
    we may just go where no ones been

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    This is certainly turning into a Mass Debate.
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    Huge Debate.

    Talked to the TM Racing guy. Helpful and the Tms sound really good.
    Ohlins rear and Marzocchi 50mm front. Alloy frame and nice setup.

    Only downside. 5 speed, no e-start. But it looks nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EXCDirt View Post
    Huge Debate.


    Only downside. 5 speed, no e-start. But it looks nice.
    E start BAH, just more wieght. and ugly. couldnt live with myself if i had that excessiveness on my bike.
    HOW DARE YOU SAY I HAVE A BIG PIPE
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    Quote Originally Posted by EXCDirt View Post
    Huge Debate.

    Talked to the TM Racing guy. Helpful and the Tms sound really good.
    Ohlins rear and Marzocchi 50mm front. Alloy frame and nice setup.

    Only downside. 5 speed, no e-start. But it looks nice.
    Im not really sure if this is true or not, but iv read, more than a few times that the TMs are alot higher strung than other bikes, in that they shit the rings after about 50 hours and become a bit lame power wise because of it. This is just something I have read, if you spend a while searching forums im sure you'll find similar statements.
    But in saying that, iv also read that the TM300s, the older ones, were more agro than ported 500s. Seemed to have been tamed down a bit now, but still faster and more agressive than any other brand of bike per comparable capacity, 125, 250, 300 etc.

    Also, why is an alloy frame preferable to a cro-moly steel frame? the alloy may be lighter for the same volume of material, but you have to use heaps more of it to get the frame as strong as a steel equivalent, so an alloy framed bike is probably not significantly lighter just from having an alloy frame. Gasgas use a steel perimeter frame and their bikes seem to handle pretty amazingly, also something you would find from searching forums...
    we may just go where no ones been

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    Everything i have read about the TM's is great. Some people dont like the forks, but I think thats a case of people wanting something to whinge about [no linkage ktm - same deal]

    I have never heard anything about TM engines wearing out quicker. They do have more power though. Which in my opinion is a good thing. Mate of mine had a steel framed [05-06-07?] 250 for as long as I have known him. Just sold it not long ago actually. One top end [not because he had to either]. Over 300hrs.

    Whats wrong with 5-speed? I have never wanted another gear on my YZ. E-Start? Come on. Its a 2 stroke. Not hard to kick.

    Just to be like everyone else in this thread - Get a yamaha. Why? Cus I have one.

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    Yeah 5 speed, no real issue there. E start has been handy at times. I should HTFU really
    It's looking like Gas gas vs TM. The GG Nambotin model would be cool but unrealistic unless one magically appears.
    Same price pretty much. 13k ish
    Italian vs Spanish? I like Italian stuff. Clear tank on the TM too and blue rims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by honda_power View Post

    Whats wrong with 5-speed? I have never wanted another gear on my YZ. E-Start? Come on. Its a 2 stroke. Not hard to kick.

    Just to be like everyone else in this thread - Get a KTM. Why? Cus I want one.
    This man speaks the truth.

    (ninja edit)

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    alloy frame make bike look flash , its not really a massive improvement and leaves even less room for fuel and airbox

    makes your bike look kinda like a superbike though and you can polish it with your knob

    be different and get the tm everyone seems to have a ktm now becomeing a bit like a corrolla
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    Quote Originally Posted by vazza View Post
    This man speaks the truth.

    (ninja edit)
    hahaha. smartass.

    Are there any EN300's in NZ? TMs are hand-assembled and there is a very limited number of them made every year so there might be none in NZ... might take a while for a shop to get one in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommorth View Post
    everyone seems to have a ktm now becomeing a bit like a corrolla
    That'll be because nearly everyone except them have turned their backs on 2smokers.
    I'd almost bet the 200 and especially the 300 exc are damn near the biggest selling hobby/trail and endurance bike out there?
    You wait till they perfect direct injection and we have the power delivery of a 4 stroke and no valves etc to worry about, and we (hopefully) can still do a piston ourselves in the shed.
    I knew following Honda's pr bullshiit about polution (which was a cover for selling more parts and Mechanic time for their dealers) would come and bite the big four on the arse.
    Let the market decideand, and it is if Ktm are the new corrolla!

    Rant over! Sorry guys I just couldn't resist being a 2smoke junky LOL!!!
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