Govt internet filter going live is sad day for NZ

**paturoa** · 14th March 2010, 13:49

It'll have interesting ramifictions for malicious attacks. Post / hack up some of the offending stuff on a competitors web site and complain to the DIA?

**davereid** · 14th March 2010, 14:05

Originally Posted by Mully

Bingo.I don't know why anyone gives a shit - just go around it.

That fine if you know that "your government is corrupt.com" exists, and has the data you seek. Cos you will get there by proxyserver, tunnelling whatever you need.

But what if you just think the government might be telling you porkies ?

You google the subject matter but its not listed. Even if it is you go to look and get a 404 error.

Maybe you will be good at getting around it. But your grandmother deserves to form her opinions with access to the same web sites and information as you do.

Freedom of information is for all, not just geeks.

**oldrider** · 14th March 2010, 15:44

Originally Posted by rainman

John, you're sounding like a stuck record, mate.

Besides, the NWO is hardly a socialist thing (it's also an unnecessary conspiracy theory).

Surprisingly I'd agree with you on the freedom in decline part, but I suspect not on the cause.

True! I take my queue from modern advertising, it's like Mrs Marsh's chalk, it does get in! (can you remember that one?)

I have to admit that while there have been many freedoms lost over my lifetime, there have also been many improvements.

If the young people of today had to endure some of the stifling social mores of our day, they would go crazy!

There is nothing I enjoy more than seeing young couples out enjoying a nice meal and a social drink in a civilised manner, there was little or non of that in my youth!

Six o'clock closing was as bazaar an experience as I can ever remember!

No alcohol within a mile of a dance or social function! (fights and arrests galore)

The ring of girls seated at the dances, while the guys hung around the door, pushing, shoving, smoking and fighting!

The fights at the pie cart on the way home from taking a girl to the movies or the local dance!

Yeah, some would have us believe that they were the good old days, yeah right! Tui anyone!

I could go on and on.

I do firmly believe that "the good old days" are today and on top of that the technical advancements over my lifetime have been truly amazing!

Yes, there have been a lot of other freedoms lost but I guess if you never had them, you will probably never miss them!

I just dislike socialism and the dumb rules and laws they invent to screw everyone down to an imaginary mediocre mid point, there are no losers, everyone is a winner!

**Bren** · 14th March 2010, 15:51

one word.....well a number to be precise....1984

**Oakie** · 14th March 2010, 16:11

Originally Posted by rainman

John, you're sounding like a stuck record, mate.

Besides, the NWO is hardly a socialist thing (it's also an unnecessary conspiracy theory).
Surprisingly I'd agree with you on the freedom in decline part, but I suspect not on the cause.

A conspiracy theorist I used to work with gave me a book about the 'New World Order' to read. It was so full of holes it wasn't even funny.

**Skyryder** · 14th March 2010, 17:51

Originally Posted by rainman

John, you're sounding like a stuck record, mate.

Besides, the NWO is hardly a socialist thing (it's also an unnecessary conspiracy theory).

Surprisingly I'd agree with you on the freedom in decline part, but I suspect not on the cause.

Exactly. It's the far right who have demolished most freedoms along with the military regimes who act in far rights interests. One only has to look at Pinochet or 'Burma,' and closer to home Hides idea of democracy with the Super City. Now don't get me wrong the left have a bad record on this as well but to conclude that freedom loss began with socialism is as crazy as claiming that democracy began with Gengis Khan.

Skyryder

**Fatt Max** · 14th March 2010, 17:58

Originally Posted by R6_kid

New Zealand - little China in the South Pacific.

Howick, Little China in New Zealand

Never, ever trust a man you can blindfold with a shoelace.....

**Fatt Max** · 14th March 2010, 18:01

Originally Posted by Bren

one word.....well a number to be precise....1984

Adds up to 22, which is the line the England rugby team cant seem to defend these days......

See your point though, I'm that fucked off with all this that I have to have a laugh, then I'll get onto doing summat.....

**Ixion** · 14th March 2010, 18:02

Originally Posted by Mully

Bingo.

I don't know why anyone gives a shit - just go around it. (unless you are looking for kiddie porn, in which case, burn in hell you scumbag)

I give a shit, because although I can easily enough get round it (now - future, maybe not), but there are hundreds of thousands of people in this country who not only do not have the techie skills to get round it, but don't even realsie that the truth is being massaged before their eyes. Once a society's government starts defining what people are allowed to know and think, that society is in BIG trouble. We just crossed a MASSIVE divide.

**Fatt Max** · 14th March 2010, 18:29

Originally Posted by Ixion

I give a shit, because although I can easily enough get round it (now - future, maybe not), but there are hundreds of thousands of people in this country who not only do not have the techie skills to get round it, but don't even realsie that the truth is being massaged before their eyes. Once a society's government starts defining what people are allowed to know and think, that society is in BIG trouble. We just crossed a MASSIVE divide.

Side issue mate, have you seen my emails? sorry, cant PM you

**kwaka_crasher** · 14th March 2010, 19:55

Originally Posted by Skyryder

Exactly. It's the far right who have demolished most freedoms along with the military regimes who act in far rights interests. One only has to look at Pinochet or 'Burma,' and closer to home Hides idea of democracy with the Super City. Now don't get me wrong the left have a bad record on this as well but to conclude that freedom loss began with socialism is as crazy as claiming that democracy began with Gengis Khan.

You are so fucking deluded.