Govt internet filter going live is sad day for NZ

**Hitcher** · 14th March 2010, 21:00

Originally Posted by Toaster

To be lawful yes they do.

Not if they suspect terrorism or other "subversive" activities are afoot.

**Toaster** · 14th March 2010, 21:03

Well that explains how they did the maori activist buggings without warrants then! Its all in the "justification".

**Brian d marge** · 15th March 2010, 02:49

Ok while you may agree with the intent ( i do )

I mean there are some shocking things out there BUT , I would like to be informed WHAT is being chopped and , why ,,, how about letting me know it WAS going to happen

the way it went about was terrible , NOTHING ( apart from stuff ) in the news

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IN NEW ZEALAND some ISPs have started filtering Internet content on behalf of the Kiwi government.
According to Stuff, the NZ Department of Internal Affairs' (DIA) Internet filter is now operational and is being used by the Internet service providers (ISPs) Maxnet and Watchdog.
However the filter was bought in without much in the way of controversy because the Kiwi government hit on the clever idea of not actually telling anyone. The filter went live on February 1 but the DIA did not announce the fact publicly.
The manager of the DIA's Censorship Compliance Unit, Steve O'Brien, denied that there was subterfuge in the launch of the Internet filter. He said it was trialed for nearly two years and the plans have been shown in the display area of the DIA offices for some time.
We expect that the display area was a cellar and the plans were locked in a filing cabinet marked "beware of the leopard", but we guess it is far too late to moan about it now.
The Kiwi filter is apparently less harsh than the one planned across the Tasman Sea in Australia. The Aussie filter was recently identified by Reporters Without Borders as being on a par with something the might be seen in Saudi Arabia. The Kiwi one just lists sites that contain images of child sexual abuse.
The New Zealand system is also voluntary whereas the Australian one is not. ISPs who have signed up to use it so far have told their customers about it and there are no laws to back it up.
However there is a problem with the way the New Zealand government is going about it. TechLiberty claims the list of what is filtered is kept secret, in direct contrast to the rest of New Zealand's censorship regime where the Chief Censor must publish decisions banning offensive material.

**Swampdonkey** · 15th March 2010, 05:16

Top secret and very hush hush. Switched on 1st of febuary .... I thought by voteing Labour out ,loss of our freedoms would stop.
the internet as we know will soon be screwed..

**davereid** · 15th March 2010, 06:42

Duplicate thread.. can some clever bastard merge em ?

**Ronin** · 15th March 2010, 07:07

Originally Posted by davereid

Duplicate thread.. can some clever bastard merge em ?

Just check with the censor that it is ok to do so first.

**bogan** · 15th March 2010, 08:28

Originally Posted by Ronin

Just check with the censor that it is ok to do so first.

chances are the other one was censored so it wouldnt have come up in the search

**Big Dave** · 15th March 2010, 09:00

Paranerds.

**oldrider** · 15th March 2010, 09:22

Originally Posted by Skyryder

Exactly. It's the far right who have demolished most freedoms along with the military regimes who act in far rights interests. One only has to look at Pinochet or 'Burma,' and closer to home Hides idea of democracy with the Super City. Now don't get me wrong the left have a bad record on this as well but to conclude that freedom loss began with socialism is as crazy as claiming that democracy began with Gengis Khan.

Skyryder

There is no "far right" in New Zealand, everything on serious offer here is well left of centre! (Big government)

The motley lot occupying parliament currently are no different to the last lot.

What difference there is, is like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic, the ship is still sinking.

MMP makes political parties accountable to their friends of allegiance rather than to the electorate,

You just have look at Key pandering to the Maori party,Act and Dunn.

How many of you "really" voted for that combination?

They selected themselves, they please themselves and they are only accountable to each other!

I voted for and still support proportional representation but MMP is a failure and needs to be completely rehashed or dumped.

MMP governments are like multi tailed dogs and "all" the tails are wagging it's arse off!

We need less government not more and there will be a binding referendum on MMP next election!

Cracked record? Sure but which record is it that's cracked?

**avgas** · 15th March 2010, 09:52

I had no idea kiddie porn was such a problem in NZ.
I wonder if it has anything to do with letting arrested pervs live next to schools.........
Typical NZ govt approach - bandaid for the problem, if the bandaid isn't big enough use duct-tape.

**oldrider** · 15th March 2010, 10:43

Originally Posted by avgas

I had no idea kiddie porn was such a problem in NZ.
I wonder if it has anything to do with letting arrested pervs live next to schools.........
Typical NZ govt approach - bandaid for the problem, if the bandaid isn't big enough use duct-tape.

Makes one wonder how many of them hold influential office in NZ?

Now "that" could be a worrying revelation, if it were possible to get the truth!

**avgas** · 15th March 2010, 10:47

Originally Posted by oldrider

Makes one wonder how many of them hold influential office in NZ?

Now "that" could be a worrying revelation, if it were possible to get the truth!

Unfortunately the answer to that question is quite simple - they were voted in.
Unfortunately at present there is no alternative to voting IN politicians currently however. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Either way they get in.

**Skyryder** · 15th March 2010, 11:09

Originally Posted by Ixion

I give a shit, because although I can easily enough get round it (now - future, maybe not), but there are hundreds of thousands of people in this country who not only do not have the techie skills to get round it, but don't even realsie that the truth is being massaged before their eyes. Once a society's government starts defining what people are allowed to know and think, that society is in BIG trouble. We just crossed a MASSIVE divide.

Or entered into a bottomless abyss.

Skyryder