North Auckland Street Skills - NASS

[MarkH]

Unfortunately not an uncommon type of accident in NZ.

It is because there is no shortage of fuckin' idiots! In fact we have such a surplus we often ship our excess to Aussie. Not that they have a shortage either. In fact there is a worldwide surplus.

[zealchick]

What should we do at the car park tonight?

We haven't done emergency braking, or brake and escape for a long time?

I think there would be some benefit at practising counter steering at 40 to 50km/h around the corners in the car park as well. There are a few people having trouble cornering on the normal ride at the moment.

Dam i wish i could be there tonight! this would have been so help full. Hope you guys have a great training night tonight

[thehovel]

don't get tagged from behind!
i don't remember alot about the bin. one minute i was riding along all quite like. (a change for me!) next i felt a bump wasn't even a massive contact and i am sliding on my back down the road.
one thing that did sick in my mind though which i think is funny now. is mark telling us in a lesson one day to steer with your hands. strange the things you remember

Just a little shot as I trundle off on me Southern Tour.
ONE DAY YOU WILL GET TO TRADE IN A BIKE ON THE NEXT ONE not an insurance claim or are at a better money???????? Regards Richard

[fizbin]

Just a little shot as I trundle off on me Southern Tour.
ONE DAY YOU WILL GET TO TRADE IN A BIKE ON THE NEXT ONE not an insurance claim or are at a better money???????? Regards Richard

ASS!
(apparently Ass is to short of a message so i had to write this to be able to post it... your still an ass thou!)

[Big Dog]

For those of you who missed it on the ride tonight. I spoke to Todd and then the boss man at cycle treads. We have organised for participants who want to take fizbins experience as a warning to be able to get a discount of 15% on Oxford Brand back protectors (Their prices are already below RRP).

To get your discount you will need to seek out Todd / Toto at Cycletreads before Easter.
You may also like to purvey their other fine merchandise or try their new coffee offering and join their customer loyalty program.

The oxford brand is quite a good one and rates really highly in most tests.

[fizbin]

For those of you who missed it on the ride tonight. I spoke to Todd and then the boss man at cycle treads. We have organised for participants who want to take fizbins experience as a warning to be able to get a discount of 15% on Oxford Brand back protectors (Their prices are already below RRP).

To get your discount you will need to seek out Todd / Toto at Cycletreads before Easter.
You may also like to purvey their other fine merchandise or try their new coffee offering and join their customer loyalty program.

The oxford brand is quite a good one and rates really highly in most tests.

I will say this. if i had not been wearing my back protector i would be in holspital or worse at the mo. they are good value. i dont know how long this offer is valid for but next wednesday i will be coming to the car park to say hello to you all (in the cage!) i iwill bring what remains of my gear along for everyone to have a look at.
i will also talk to everyone about it and answer any question anyone has on inciidents like this.
i sure Big Dog and alike will have thier input as well.
Steve

[R-Soul]

Dam i wish i could be there tonight! this would have been so help full. Hope you guys have a great training night tonight

Iif you want to see some awesome counter steering around a car park, go to youtube and type in "Japanese motorcycle cops demonstrration". Fuck me those guys can handle a bike... just looking at it is pretty instructive as well- because I never realised that those kind of manouvers were even possible at such low speed. It puts a whole new perspective on low speed riding and manouverability...


Pity I could not make it this time- no more brownie points - next week for sure...

[Ironclaw]

i iwill bring what remains of my gear along for everyone to have a look at.
i will also talk to everyone about it and answer any question anyone has on inciidents like this.

That would be very helpful fizbin as I have the same jacket! would be great to see how it held up (or not) and the rest of your gear.
Was looking at back protectors wondering if they are more for the 'hardcore' riders but looks like I'll now be getting one for sure!

p.s. seems like there drips/holes in the lower part of the jacket - did it melt?

[TOTO]

Bosdo has said we can do 15% off the oxford back protectors till easter. I for one never get on a bike without a back protector. It is like a safety belt in a car - you dont put it because you WILL have an accident, but because you might. You can ask for me or if I'm not around Brad or Craig will be able to do you the same deal.

Fizzy I'm really glad you are with us bro. Drink of choice for you on wednesday to heal your suffering.

[fizbin]

just a beer will do. i have been drinking away my sorrows enough for a while.

[accident]

just a beer will do. i have been drinking away my sorrows enough for a while.

Good to here you are ok and you ass is on the mend.
Have you bought a bike yet?

[TOTO]

GN250 - these things are unbrakable !

[Clean_up]

Fizzy, glad you ok, sad about the bike!!!!
Hope the person who hit ya stopped and helped you.
Glad you on the mend, take it easy for a while.
Hope to catch up with everyone next week, cant make it this week.....but got a wee surprise when i turn up next week

[p.dath]

I think I'll skip the ride tomorrow. I've got my wiring harness and rear part of my bike in lots of tiny pieces at the moment. So I think I'll put it all back together tomorrow after work, which I'm certain will mean I'll miss the ride.

However I think I'll try and pick up some tennis balls, and aim to be at the car park at 7:30pm (read the first post again people). I think the NASS sessions have become far to lob-sided, in that the session is now 90% to 100% ride, and no car park practical learning. The rides simply are not making it to the car park anywhere near 7:30pm, and those that just turn up at the car park are now leaving. We are effectively driving people away who would like to learn.

I also wonder if it might be an idea to get riders to pair up, and have the rider behind tell the rider in front what they observed. This would also encourage the group to stay within range of each other. Call it self mentoring if you like. Some things are easy to watch for. Is the rider looking through the corner [good], or watching the ground. Are they entering the corner from the outside [correct], or the inside. Are they braking or closing the throttle in the middle of the corner [bad].
I suspect if you can learn enough to identify to the rider in front what they did/didn't do well, you can probably do the same to your own riding when away from the group.

So unless someone with more experience steps up for tomorrow (24/3/2010), I'd like to do 1 or 2 of the following:

• Counter-steering practice - I think about 4 people in the group really need some dedicated practice on it, and its good for everyone.
• Tight low speed turning - as in, trying to turn at maximum lock.
• Emergency braking. This one is always a little dangerous to practice, as there is an increased risk of someone having a low speed off. But it is something that everyone needs to practice - even if you've done it 100 times before.

If 2 people help, then we can do two of these at the same time. Otherwise setting up a course but having no one to watch the people go through it is of limited value.


The only slight snag I have is that a friend of mine is out from Australia at the moment, and I haven't seen them in about 3 or 4 years, and I would also like to catch up with them. And I have been sick for the last 3 days. Will do another post tomorrow confirming my intentions.

[TOTO]

Ok seeing that I'll probably be late for the gassy anyway, I'll come keep you company at the car park. I'll be at the car park at about 6:30 onwards. I'll bring my half tennis balls and we can do plenty of drills.